rhymeandreason
Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Do you know if BBMR was profitable before the purchase by Mammoth?
BBMR was purchased in 2014 after a very bad snow year. I don’t know if they were profitable, but no one was surprised they sold.
Do you know if BBMR was profitable before the purchase by Mammoth?
In the long run, BBMR was profitable. Snow Summit was owned by the same family since the outset. Bear Mountain has a more checkered ownership history until it was bought out by Snow Summit and they were combined to become BBMR. Put it this way ... half of the weekend ski patrol is volunteer; the USARC (adaptive ski services) which operates out of bear, and is privately funded via hardcore donors, is almost 100% volunteer based. These folks donate hours and hours of services. All they ever received was a season pass, a comp ticket for friends and family for each day served, and a discount on food. I have two friends who have volunteered at USARC for over 15 years and two others who were volunteer ski patrol for so long that BBMR awarded them lifetime season passes. First thing Mammoth did was eliminate those season passes and food discounts. All they offered was one comp ticket for every day served and that excluded their 2-4 days of annual training. It costs what? .25 to actually make the little plastic pass? That's just cheap and insulting. The whole town was fed up by the time Mammoth sold out. The parking became such a cluster under Mammoth management that this year the town has hired the Sherrif's Department to manage traffic on weekends. This was caused by the decision to stop limiting ticket sales. They sell more than for the parking they can provide.Do you know if BBMR was profitable before the purchase by Mammoth?
I'm almost on the edge of my seat waiting to see if there's an RMSP equivalent. I don't need a pass with 20 different mountains, I'm not going to travel to 20 different mountains, and I'm not going to pay extra to get 17 mountains that I'll never ski. I don't get enough time off work to do many trips and would rather use the time I do have to ski, not fly or drive. It is nice to have a few local options but I don't want to pay an arm and a leg.I can see there being 2 tiers. An all out do, go anywhere pass and then something akin to the Max, MCP. So many days at each place.
With the announcement about the Ikon Pass pricing, it's clear that Deer Valley access is limited even for those who shell out $899 for the Ikon Pass that has unlimited days at the other Alterra locations. As mentioned above, for further discussion about the Ikon Pass, go to the new thread IKON Pass Pricing Revealed.
$899 Ikon Full Pass
Unlimited (12 Alterra resorts)
Winter Park, Copper Mountain, Steamboat, Eldora; Squaw/Alpine; Mammoth, Big Bear, June; Tremblant, Blue in ONT, Stratton, Snowshoe
7 days each: Revelstoke, Big Sky, Jackson Hole, Deer Valley (Alterra); Killington, Sugarbush
7 days combined: Aspen (4), Alta/Snowbird, Banff SkiBig3 (LL, Sunshine, Norquay), Boyne NE (Loon, Sunday River, Sugarloaf)
$599 Ikon Base Pass, holiday blackout dates Dec. 26-31, 2018; Jan. 19-20, 2019; Feb. 16-17, 2019
Unlimited (9 Alterra resorts)
Winter Park, Copper Mountain, Steamboat, Eldora; Big Bear, June; plus Squaw/Alpine with blackout dates
5 days at 4 Alterra resorts, with black out dates: Mammoth, Deer Valley, Steamboat, Stratton
5 days each at Partners, with black out dates: Revelstoke, Big Sky, Jackson Hole; Killington, Sugarbush
5 days combined, with black out dates: Aspen (4), Alta/Snowbird, Banff SkiBig3 (LL, Sunshine, Norquay), Boyne NE (Loon, Sunday River, Sugarloaf)