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Performance skis for a Level 3 exam

kleinekarnes

Diva in Training
#1
Hi everyone,

I am starting to work on my L3 exam and have been told by my L2 examiner that I should get a narrower more performance-oriented ski (which seems to mean it should be in the 70s underfoot or less). My main ski is my Kästle LX82 (156cm) and I'm almost 5 feet and around 130 pounds. I ski aggressively in familiar terrain but feel less confident in unfamiliar terrain. The skis I've been looking at to help me push to the next level technically are the following. I would love some pros/cons of them and where you guys find these skis to be for women looking for more performance, improving abilities, and having fun. I'm leaning towards the 1st 3 in the list...but go back and forth between them all in my head...

Stöckli Laser MX (67 underfoot, size 158, 3.02 kg) - women-specific, but it may be too narrow of a focus... (lighter skis are always a benefit for me)
Stöckli Laser AX (78 underfoot, size 154 [3.32 kg] or 161 [3.44 kg]) - may not be narrow enough...but also a little more versatile?
Rossignol Hero Elite MT CA (74 underfoot, size 159, 3.6 kg [lighter because this is sized up and I think it was listed incorrectly]) - MT stands for multi-turn and may give a bit more versatility? CA stands for carbon and it replaced titanal to make it a little lighter.
Blizzard Firebird Competition 76 (76 underfoot, size 158, 3.2 kg) or HRC (same specs) - The difference is that Comp 76 doesn't have the extra carbon armor, which doesn't seem to make much difference via reviews except in cost, but these may be too stiff versus the Laser MX?
Head Power Joy (68 underfoot, size 158 or 163), Epic Joy (65 underfoot, size 158 or 163), or Super Joy (75 underfoot, size 158 or 163) - leaning more towards the epic or power. Feel like the super may be too much like what I already have. And these are women-specific as well. Didn't find a lot of reviews on the other 2 though... and these may not be advanced enough for what I'm looking for...

Thanks for any input, experiences, suggestions, or ideas!!!
Jenny
 

Jilly

Moderator
Staff member
#2
Hi everyone,

Rossignol Hero Elite MT CA (74 underfoot, size 159, 3.6 kg [lighter because this is sized up and I think it was listed incorrectly]) - MT stands for multi-turn and may give a bit more versatility? CA stands for carbon and it replaced titanal to make it a little lighter.
Blizzard Firebird Competition 76 (76 underfoot, size 158, 3.2 kg) or HRC (same specs) - The difference is that Comp 76 doesn't have the extra carbon armor, which doesn't seem to make much difference via reviews except in cost, but these may be too stiff versus the Laser MX?
Head Power Joy (68 underfoot, size 158 or 163), Epic Joy (65 underfoot, size 158 or 163), or Super Joy (75 underfoot, size 158 or 163) - leaning more towards the epic or power. Feel like the super may be too much like what I already have. And these are women-specific as well. Didn't find a lot of reviews on the other 2 though... and these may not be advanced enough for what I'm looking for...

Thanks for any input, experiences, suggestions, or ideas!!!
Jenny
I own the Hero MT CA. Yes the CA stands for Carbon. I found that with this ski, the tails seem to release too early for my liking. I also has the Hero ST Ca from a few years ago. They don't make that one anymore. Have to go with the Ti, which I hope to demo early this season.
Haven't found a Joy I like yet. But that's why we say demo.
Blizzard - my rep recommended the tuned down race ski - SRC for me for my next level. (CSIA L3) I don't know much about the Competition 76. Somehow I ended up with the Nordica SLC which I find a little stiff.

So I would suggest you search up a demo day early this season. Pro-deals only last so long.
 

marzNC

Angel Diva
#3
Welcome! What's your home mountain?

My L3 instructor at my home mountain in northern VA loves his Stöckli Laser SC. He's a small older man who is also a trainer at Massanutten. Almost all his training for the L3 exam was done at small hills in VA or WV several decades ago. I demo'd a pair a Whitetail several years ago and quickly understood why even though I was on skis that were a bit long (Stöckli Laser SC 156, 122-72-103, R12.3). But couldn't justify spending that kind of money for mid-Atlantic skiing. Ended up with the Stormrider 85 a year later. I'm 5'0", 110 pounds, pretty strong for over 60, advanced but not aggressive. Not an instructor but have worked with over a dozen different L3 instructors in recent years after I could plan for 20+ days skiing at big mountains out west.

Several of the Taos instructors who have been teaching for decades use the Laser SC as their teaching ski.

I bought the Head Absolut Joy for mid-A and northeast skiing a few years ago. Also demo'd the Total Joy when I was considering what to buy to replace the skis I had before that were 75 underfoot. I like the AJ but think you are right that the Joy line may not be enough for you.
 

liquidfeet

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
#4
Hi everyone,

I am starting to work on my L3 exam and have been told by my L2 examiner that I should get a narrower more performance-oriented ski (which seems to mean it should be in the 70s underfoot or less). My main ski is my Kästle LX82 (156cm) and I'm almost 5 feet and around 130 pounds. I ski aggressively in familiar terrain but feel less confident in unfamiliar terrain. The skis I've been looking at to help me push to the next level technically are the following. I would love some pros/cons of them and where you guys find these skis to be for women looking for more performance, improving abilities, and having fun. I'm leaning towards the 1st 3 in the list...but go back and forth between them all in my head...

Stöckli Laser MX (67 underfoot, size 158, 3.02 kg) - women-specific, but it may be too narrow of a focus... (lighter skis are always a benefit for me)
Stöckli Laser AX (78 underfoot, size 154 [3.32 kg] or 161 [3.44 kg]) - may not be narrow enough...but also a little more versatile?
Rossignol Hero Elite MT CA (74 underfoot, size 159, 3.6 kg [lighter because this is sized up and I think it was listed incorrectly]) - MT stands for multi-turn and may give a bit more versatility? CA stands for carbon and it replaced titanal to make it a little lighter.
Blizzard Firebird Competition 76 (76 underfoot, size 158, 3.2 kg) or HRC (same specs) - The difference is that Comp 76 doesn't have the extra carbon armor, which doesn't seem to make much difference via reviews except in cost, but these may be too stiff versus the Laser MX?
Head Power Joy (68 underfoot, size 158 or 163), Epic Joy (65 underfoot, size 158 or 163), or Super Joy (75 underfoot, size 158 or 163) - leaning more towards the epic or power. Feel like the super may be too much like what I already have. And these are women-specific as well. Didn't find a lot of reviews on the other 2 though... and these may not be advanced enough for what I'm looking for...

Thanks for any input, experiences, suggestions, or ideas!!!
Jenny
The Joy series can be a bit soft. I'd avoid all of those.
Where will you be taking your skiing exam?
 

kleinekarnes

Diva in Training
#5
Thank you ladies. Jilly, it sounds like you've had a chance to demo several skis similar to what I listed. That's awesome. If you get to Demo the Ti, let me know what you think!

My home is Snow Creek in Weston, MO. Midwest area, so Demo is hard to come by... especially high end skis. I do teach at Breckenridge for 7 days a year, so I get some skiing in out there, but I'm pretty limited since my day job is at a school for the blind. I squeeze it all in somehow. So getting input from those that have demoed or own is about as close as I can get. I also have most of my family in VA and spend time in the state every year. I got married on skis a couple years ago at Bryce. Loved it!

So it sounds like the Laser AX might be a better option than the MX and maybe the Rossi... and probably not the Joy collection. I will continue to look here for more input. It's nice to hear comments from other women as well.

Thank you.
 

kleinekarnes

Diva in Training
#6
The Joy series can be a bit soft. I'd avoid all of those.
Where will you be taking your skiing exam?
Hi!
Thanks. OK sounds like the verdict is too avoid Joy for now. I'm not sure where the exam will be. The plan is to take it next year. Most L3 exams in the Midwest are held in MI or IL or WI or MN. Wherever it may be offered that we decide to go.
Thanks!
 

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