bounceswoosh
Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Er, to be clear, not an instructor here - all pure speculation.
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Instructors and free skiing
- Thread starter Skisailor
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Er, to be clear, not an instructor here - all pure speculation.
I know an instructor that got hurt free skiing between lessons. No worker's comp. Out for the season. Not sure if they put her on desk duty.
I just thinks it would be bad business to allow them to cut line without a group when in uniform. When you're in line for 1/2 hour and an instructor cuts in front of your 4some, I know some people that would go ballistic. They get to free ski on days off. That's their fun time.
I just thinks it would be bad business to allow them to cut line without a group when in uniform. When you're in line for 1/2 hour and an instructor cuts in front of your 4some, I know some people that would go ballistic. They get to free ski on days off. That's their fun time.
surfsnowgirl
Banned
Between boarding and ski blades to skiing now I've been going to ski resorts for years and it never crossed my mind as irritating when i see ski instructors sans students get on the chair. However, that said I truly understand how cutting line could irritate a paying customer.
2 of the chairs at my mountain don't have ski school lines so with or without students I have to wait in line like everyone else. However, the 2 base lodge quads do have ski school lines and honestly when I only have 15-30 minutes to free ski before I have to be back at lineup I truly appreciate being able to just ski up to the line and get on the chair.
Maybe our mountain is smaller and doesn't have skiing mountain ambassadors so this is their way to get us up there faster to fulfill that function. I am not sure if cutting the line is the norm or not at other mountains but I'm grateful I'm allowed to do so because were it not for that I'd likely not have time to do any free skiing at all when I'm working. Maybe that's why they let us do it.
2 of the chairs at my mountain don't have ski school lines so with or without students I have to wait in line like everyone else. However, the 2 base lodge quads do have ski school lines and honestly when I only have 15-30 minutes to free ski before I have to be back at lineup I truly appreciate being able to just ski up to the line and get on the chair.
Maybe our mountain is smaller and doesn't have skiing mountain ambassadors so this is their way to get us up there faster to fulfill that function. I am not sure if cutting the line is the norm or not at other mountains but I'm grateful I'm allowed to do so because were it not for that I'd likely not have time to do any free skiing at all when I'm working. Maybe that's why they let us do it.
bounceswoosh
Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I think this conversation is played out, unless it moves on to other aspects of free skiing instructors. Basic points:
Some resorts give instructors ski school line access even when they don't have a class. Some don't.
Some resorts prefer having instructors visible in uniform when not teaching. Some don't.
People at places where they get to skip the line enjoy doing so.
It's annoying to some visitors when an instructor skips ahead of the main body of people waiting in line.
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This thread has come close, in places, to a "my mountain does it better" tone that isn't particularly nice or productive, so I'd ask that we stay mindful of how our posts will be received.
Some resorts give instructors ski school line access even when they don't have a class. Some don't.
Some resorts prefer having instructors visible in uniform when not teaching. Some don't.
People at places where they get to skip the line enjoy doing so.
It's annoying to some visitors when an instructor skips ahead of the main body of people waiting in line.
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This thread has come close, in places, to a "my mountain does it better" tone that isn't particularly nice or productive, so I'd ask that we stay mindful of how our posts will be received.
contesstant
Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I'll have to chime in when I start working at the mountain this winter as a mountain host/guest services ambassador. Will I have to change my jacket? I somehow doubt it, because I think technically I'll be on the clock 8 hours doing SOMETHING anyway. In fact, if I'm out "freeskiing" I'll be wearing my guest services hat no matter what.
Now, my days off? That's a whole different story ;) No uniform on those days!
Now, my days off? That's a whole different story ;) No uniform on those days!
KatyPerrey
PSIA 3 Children's Specialist 2 Keystone Resort
General policy at Vail Resorts is that if you are NOT with a class or PVT you wait in line. Only exceptions would be if you have been called to a different location and have limited time to get there or leading a clinic. Other than that you are in line with the guests in or out of uniform. We are also encouraged to spilt up to ride with guests. Nothing like seeing four uniforms going up a chair!!
Skisailor
Angel Diva
Yes - that reminds me that we do go in the "ski school" line during clinics. And there we do look like "the red horde" on the lifts and on the mountain. I've always thought that it must look bad to guests. But in this case, it really is good to ride together. We are usually getting to know each other better and exchanging notes . . . Worthwhile for sure.
Skisailor
Angel Diva
Our clinics are typically for a half day and were often on Tuesdays and Fridays last year - not necessarily off peak times.
KatyPerrey
PSIA 3 Children's Specialist 2 Keystone Resort
Our clinics at Keystone are usually out of uniform except the clinic leader. You may get the occasional instructor that drops in and is in uniform but because we are not covered by workers comp - no uniforms.
Skisailor
Angel Diva
Wow! We are required to be in uniform during clinics! Just the opposite. So I believe we are covered by workers comp. That said, management was very unhappy with the number of claims last year. So I wonder how long this will last . . .
santacruz skier
Angel Diva
True but it was 3 pages of the same responses... now there are others ....
BackCountryGirl
Angel Diva
At my mountain, we're specifically not allowed to wear uniforms when we are not working or in clinics. If we're "on call" for private duty, we can free ski in uniform, but on a day off, it's not allowed. Here's another thing that hasn't been said: some mountains allow instructors to wear uniforms at PSIA events. Mine doesn't allow the uniform even to "go" off premises, although many violate that one.
surfsnowgirl
Banned
Good point about not being allowed to wear uniforms off premises. We aren't allowed to wear our jackets when we are out and about off mountain. I'll wear it to and from home or the hotel but if going somewhere after work. I keep a spare jacket in my jeep so I can swap out.
