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Inbounds Avalanche at Palisades Tahoe

santacruz skier

Angel Diva
Dunno. Usually all over the place. I have one on Big Mountain and one on devo.
Just wondered... I'm getting notifications of wind hold here and there at Palisades.
 

marzNC

Angel Diva
Which beacon was recommended that you purchased?
I opted for a simpler model with fewer controls. It's the Tracker S from BCA. Here's a review:


The advice from my instructor who teaches at Alta was ""Black Diamond Pro is the model used by patrol, the Recon X model is also good." He also said Berryvox and BCA were good. He was very clear that he doesn't like Ortovox. My primary ski buddy has an older BCA. The Tracker S is small and light, which appealed to me.
 

AJM

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Which beacon was recommended that you purchased?
I use the Black Diamond one (not sure of the model) only because it was a gift from my son.
I will also say that its all well and good wearing a transceiver/beacon but its even better if you know how to use them ie search.
Our local hill has a transceiver area at the top of the hill where you can practise, I also do a few practises pre season in our garden. Hubby hides his transceiver and I have to locate it and vice versa.
 

Pequenita

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I imagine a bunch of the skiers there wear them and then they would also go into search mode in this type of situation if they were not impacted.
Candidly, the reason I feel that one shouldn't go out and buy a transceiver for the sole purpose of wearing one on resort storm days and without any training is because I feel that they may adversely affect the critical earlier stages of a search. I've no doubt that once patrol arrives, they will direct those wearing one to put it into search mode, but I can see a scenario where there is a burial and someone unfamiliar with the transceiver and searches keeps it on transmit when a search is underway.
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
@Pequenita. That is a very valid and important point. The ability to switch to search is important. So is knowing when not to in case of hangfire, and where to stand in such a case. I would think the benefits outweigh that risk. Probably beingoverly y optimistic.
 

Pequenita

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Honestly, I kind of hope that a person who doesn't know how to use the transceiver would just leave the scene, unless their partner is the one caught and they have visual cues. I'm inclined to think that at certain resorts - like PT, there is a high number of people who are regular backcountry skiers who would all be yelling out directions like "everyone switch to search!", but the night before a storm day a few years ago, I idly told someone I'd be skiing with that I'd be skiing with a beacon, and she literally went out and bought one a few hours later, and in the morning asked me to show her how to turn it on. I've got really mixed feelings about that.
 

beane

Certified Ski Diva
Got an email from the teams director covering snow safety.. here’s the section on beacons (to your point)


Recently there has been an understandable increase in discussion surrounding the use of avalanche beacons. It is important to remember that beacons are not a preventative tool, and users should have the appropriate training/education surrounding their proper use. We have a broad program for snow safety education and awareness for coaches and athletes with a goal to educate as many team members as possible with age and ability appropriate curriculum, including: seminars offered during the season; supporting coach education, both required for certification and volunteer; and our deep snow safety training for coaches and messaging to athletes and parents. We will continue to create structure and opportunity appropriate to age groups for our team snow safety program.
 

Rainbow Jenny

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Here is a list of all the resorts / SAR/ that have detectors:
At Mammoth, I'm assuming its beacon first b/c all patrollers have one (who ever is on first on scene) and the Recco detector would have to be brought to the site. But yes, it is used in searches.

California Highway Patrol recently obtained a RECCO SAR Helicopter Detector system, only one of 9 in the US. It's not just for winter, but SAR year round.

I was actually surprised to see small Southern California resorts on the detector list, Mt. High and Mount Waterman, but there have been tragic avalanches just out of bounds of those ski areas as well.
Thanks for the list.

I did a companion rescue course (located near Sherwood chair of Alpine Meadows) with a SAR team 4 years ago and we practiced using RECCO detector, definitely takes some practice.

Mts High and Waterman are both located in the San Gabriel Mountains. Fatalities due to icy conditions (inbound) and avalanches (backcountry) have occurred. Here they are:



A friend/mentor who patrolled at Waterman responded to his patroller partner in distress over the radio that day in 2008. We grieved together over the loss of our friends in the mountains that winter.
 

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