Yes- those skis like to go very fast... they reward good balance, form and I htink to enjoy must be 'on center' on them. they don't like to skid.. On edge-they can go 0-60 in about 30yards or less. I opted for the ladies version Cloud 11's they are still bullet fast but again, not an easy ride IMO---last year I sold them to a high school racer since I have my more forgiving but very fast Liberty'sThose things are supposed to be rockets. I think @nopoleskier demoed them and she said these things like to go very fast.
Unfortunately, the selection for carving skis was pretty sparse at the used ski sale, especially for what I wanted to pay. These aren't full FIS GS skis and have a turning radius of 17.6m in this length so at least we aren't in the 25+ category (like some of my other skis- 17.6m is actually the shortest turning radius I've ever own)! I definitely won't be on them a lot, just wanted something fun and not boring before off piste terrain is open in the early season and on icy spring mornings before the off piste warms up. If I don't like them, I'll just sell them!Those guys have a long turning radius. G as in Giant Slalom. They will be stiff too. X9 would have been a better choice.
But get the bindings adjusted and to ski them. Have fun.
I think it's a good idea - working on your carving before the off-piste terrain opens. Have fun!Unfortunately, the selection for carving skis was pretty sparse at the used ski sale, especially for what I wanted to pay. These aren't full FIS GS skis and have a turning radius of 17.6m in this length so at least we aren't in the 25+ category (like some of my other skis- 17.6m is actually the shortest turning radius I've ever own)! I definitely won't be on them a lot, just wanted something fun and not boring before off piste terrain is open in the early season and on icy spring mornings before the off piste warms up. If I don't like them, I'll just sell them!
As a Stockli, Volkl, and Kastle lover myself; I gotta ask...which pair is your across-the-board favorite?I try not to demo skis because I always end up buying new skis afterwards. I have more than enough in my quiver to cover most of any conditions I can think of, and I am running out of space to store them. But I know the quiver will continue to grow regardless...
My quiver are the 6 pairs from the left:
Stockli Laser AX
Stockli Nela 88
Kastle FX 96
Kastle MX Limited
Rossi Saffron 7
Kastle MX89
Not pictured:
Kastle MX84 - my friend borrowed it last season and hasn’t returned it yet!
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Laser AX is my absolute favorite!As a Stockli, Volkl, and Kastle lover myself; I gotta ask...which pair is your across-the-board favorite?
My boyfriend has those! He adores them!! I can confirm the at least the resort deathwishes are excellent! So versatile!Pulled the trigger on the Moment Deathwish Tours! Now snooooooow!!
Hey I have those poles ! Grassticks !Not going to lie, I was kind of intimidated to try these skis after some of the feedback I received here, but I found them very easy and fun to ski on the groomers. Highly recommend to advanced skiers if one wants an easier going (non-FIS) GS ski! First time being on something sub 97mm!
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The 173s are mounted with Griffon Demos, and by nature of my 287 boot sole length, my toe piece is as far back as it can go. That puts me just shy of 1 cm back. The 180s are mounted on the line.where did you mount your SOS 173 and 180 skis? I am ready to sell my 173, or maybe i should try a different mount position.
Yeah! I love them! I have pink handlesHey I have those poles ! Grassticks !
I have purple handles.Yeah! I love them! I have pink handles
I've heard excellent things about the ATKs! Probably best tech bindings out there! I just stick with the marker alpinists because they ski well and are much cheaper haha.My quiver (I'm 5'6" and 130lbs)
Resort: Fischer ranger 102 163
Everyday backcountry: G3 seekr 100 170
Spring/summer touring: K2 talkback 88 160
I'm currently replacing the G3 seekr setup with Zag Ubac 102 and ATK raiders, but I'm on the fence about going 164 or 170 with the skis. I like a slightly short ski as I'm not a powerhouse (a very good technical skier but more style than strength). The Ubacs have a longer effective edge than the seekrs and I'm concerned the longer length might be detrimental in tight spots like couloirs or bush skiing.
I'd also love a fat resort ski when funds allow, probably Nordica Santa Ana 110.
A fatter touring ski would also be nice for the unicorn deep days, but the price of such a setup is hard to accommodate. Probably G3 seekr 110 or DPS Pagoda 112, maybe the Zag Bakan 112 depending on how I like the Ubacs. I don't like reverse camber twin tip type skis, which dominate this category.
I'm mostly worried the shorter ones might not plane well and I'll be working to keep the tips from diving. I'm not a speed demon in the backcountry, I just like to cruise and enjoy myself.I've heard excellent things about the ATKs! Probably best tech bindings out there! I just stick with the marker alpinists because they ski well and are much cheaper haha.
I guess for the length of the Zags, just thinking what you prioritize. Are you skiing a lot of couloirs or steeps? If so, then shorter is probably better. Regarding the longer skis, I'm not familiar with the Zags, but I'm guessing if you're not backseat, even the longer ones should be nimble enough in trees to get you down! Might not be cruisey and fun though. In general, you really only need the length if you want the stability at speed. Are you skiing anything fast? Or just going at your own speed and enjoying yourself? I sized down on my Sierras because of couloir skiing and steep skiing with jump turns and I don't need them to rip. I have other skis to fit that need!
Powder skis would be nice, especially if you like spending time in rogers pass ;)
If you're going to now ski in purcells and selkirks, get a 104mm minimum. Even a 108mm is solid for a daily driver. You'll be miserable in deep pow on 102mm traditional skis! Plus, you still have your K2s for spring days and firm couloirs! If the ski is fatter, you won't have to rely on the length for float as much!I'm mostly worried the shorter ones might not plane well and I'll be working to keep the tips from diving. I'm not a speed demon in the backcountry, I just like to cruise and enjoy myself.
So far I haven't felt I needed a fatter ski except for a few days here and there. But what's the point of having a job if you aren't buying skis right?
My center point of boot appears to be approximately 34.5" when i pull a tape from tip on my 173. tails feel like they get caught up at times. thinking of moving them back further.The 173s are mounted with Griffon Demos, and by nature of my 287 boot sole length, my toe piece is as far back as it can go. That puts me just shy of 1 cm back. The 180s are mounted on the line.
In general, I tend to like the more neutral “unisex” mount position on all my skis.
Are you having issues with yours?