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Starting a guy off on women's skis?

num

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I have a friend, 5'9 170, non skier, male and cheap. He's willing to give skiing a go,but is very put off by spending money, especially before knowing whether or not he'd like it.

Eager to make a convert, I tell him that I'll take him to a teeny tiny place that isn't too far with 12 dollar beginner rope tow tickets. I'm planning on buying him a lesson to avoid him figuring it's a waste of money and thinking he could teach himself just as well, and ending up cracking his skull, cracking someone else's skull, or just not having the best experience and spending all day on his face with snow in his pants.

He saw some looong old straight skis at a yard sale for 5 bucks and wanted to get them to avoid paying for rental skis. I convinced him not to go for those, but he's still reluctant about paying to rent in order to try skiing out. Which brings me to my question. With him being a lighter male beginner, would he be alright to give skiing a try on the skis I learned on, 158 cm female specific beginner/intermediate skis with the bindings moved back, etc? And just for theory purposes, if not my friend or my skis in particular, would a male beginner need to get started with unisex skis, or would he be able to get started with the right pair of female specific skis just as well?

He's being super cheap, I know, but I think once he has a good experience on skis he'll see that it's worth spending money on. He's the kind of person who's super cheap but spends on things that he's already into, not just practical stuff. Example- car stuff like rims and tinted windows.

Back on track, I've heard of advanced lighter men on burly women's skis, etc, but never really heard anything about a guys starting on womens skis. What do you guys think?
 

volklgirl

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
In general, he'll probably be fine on your 158s for the 1st time or 2 - depending on the model. However, the issue will be with boots and bindings.

1. What is he going to do about boots? This is the most important piece of equipment, even for a beginner!

2.Unless his feet are tiny, your feet are huge, or you have demo bindings, your skis will most likely need to be redrilled and remounted to fit an average men's boot. Are you willing to do this to your skis?

Does your area have a beginners program? Many of them include 1-4 lessons, lift tickets (or free beginners area tickets), and equipment rental for a reasonable price. This is the best way to go. In Michigan, McDonalds sponsors a "Discover Skiing" program that gets all of the above for about $25.
 

abc

Banned
Seems to me much easier to try to find one of those "learn to ski" packages with lift/lesson/rental all together.

For most areas, you can almost always find such a package at about the same (or even less) cost as lift and lesson seperately.
 

ISki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
He could use your skis but the problem is your bindings.

Do you have bindings that slide on a rail and are length adjustable? If not, then your binding is mounted on your ski to fit your boot. So he would have to wear your boots or the same size boot.

But even if the boot fits the binding, another issue is the binding release setting (the tension). He may need a different setting than you do for a safe release.

(I'm assuming that you just want to lend him your skis for a day or so. If you're giving him the skis to learn on, then a ski shop could remount the bindings and adjust the tension.)
 

altagirl

Moderator
Staff member
He could use your skis but the problem is your bindings.

Do you have bindings that slide on a rail and are length adjustable? If not, then your binding is mounted on your ski to fit your boot. So he would have to wear your boots or the same size boot.

But even if the boot fits the binding, another issue is the binding release setting (the tension). He may need a different setting than you do for a safe release.

(I'm assuming that you just want to lend him your skis for a day or so. If you're giving him the skis to learn on, then a ski shop could remount the bindings and adjust the tension.)

I doubt it would be a problem for anyone to learn on women's specific skis, in theory. Still, unless you know someone at a shop, remounting bindings is more expensive than just renting beginner skis.
 

Jilly

Moderator
Staff member
The bindings are the main issue and have already been discussed. Check with the hill and see if they have a beginner special. I'm sure they will as even our local little place has it for a day. That McDonalds deal sounds good!! We have a similar package for grade 5 students through the schools.
 

num

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
As far as bindings go, I've got demo track bindings and was thinking about using that pair of skis as rock skis as well possibly loaners.

That McDonalds deal sounds awesome. There are some beginner deals around here, though nothing good enough that skipping renting skis wouldn't make cheaper. Still, a rental package is probably what we'd go with, since it's his first time skiing I don't want there to be any gear issues. Him asking to borrow my skis just got me thinking about the idea, as my first time was on unisex or "men's", as I'm sure many other women learned on them and many still ski em.
 

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