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Slow Skiers Unite- survey

Knitjenious

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
Hey divas! Not sure how many of you follow Ski Moms on social, but if you identify as a slow skier (like me,) here's a survey for you.


I also ordered a super adorable, yet-to-be-applied slow skier sticker for my helmet from them.
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GladeDuchess

Certified Ski Diva
This is fabulous, I love it!

I was never more insulted on a ski slope than when I was slowly making my way down an ice sheet at Sunday River and some bloke told me where the green dot trails were! : ( I think he was ski patrol too.

The whole mountain was ice and ski patrol had a lot of injuries to tend to that day.......and I was not one of them!
 

AJM

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Hey divas! Not sure how many of you follow Ski Moms on social, but if you identify as a slow skier (like me,) here's a survey for you.


I also ordered a super adorable, yet-to-be-applied slow skier sticker for my helmet from them.
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Whilst I dont identify as a slow skier, video proves otherwise :laughter:
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
@Knitjenious Thank you for sharing the info and survey. I found the survey question that asks how we define slow to be interesting as I definitely had to choose other rather than the three stated options which were prioritizing safety, staying in control, and skiing at a leisurely pace. Having given the speed issue while skiing a ton of thought over the last twenty four years of teaching, I would probably define it as going slower than the majority of people on a given slope at a given moment in time.

Please keep in mind that the statement I made above does not judge whether or not that group of people is going the appropriate speed for the pitch or the conditions. All I'm trying to say, is that slow is not a set speed as it is so relative to the person skiing, as well as the others around the person and how they are skiing.

Unlike roads where there are clear guidelines for setting speed limits and an easy way to determine if we are observing the appropriate speed based on the set speed limit, skiing, unfortunately, does not have such a system in place.

I am often with students skiing slower than the majority of people on a run, as we focus on techniques for speed management. While the downhill skier always has the right of way, I also encourage my students who are slow to think about ways to reduce the likelihood of being hit from behind.

The two situations where being a slow skier can be a challenge to others and the flow of traffic are on traverses or cattracks, as well as on narrower runs, no matter the pitch. As a slower skier, I know that I have no problems with control but what I don't know is whether the people behind me know how to control their speed as well as I do. To mitigate the risk to myself, I will often think of lanes where I take up one lane and leave room for others to pass me on one side or the other or both, if there's enough room.

I've always felt a little bit sad for those who think that skiing fast is a sign of being a good skier. For so many that is not the case. Shockingly, it's not just young men who think this as I have been confronted by middle-aged women who thought they needed to get bumped up to a more challenging group level only because they knew how to go fast and crash.

I like to think that anything that is done slowly in life allows the person doing it to enjoy it for longer and that's a bonus!
 

skibum4ever

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I try hard to pick a line and stay with it. However, I struggle on ice and difficult terrain.

And yes, I currently identify as a slow skier.
 

HuntersEmma57

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I'm no longer a "slow" skier, but I was one for a long time. I started skiing comparatively late at age 49 when I married an expert skier.

Once I was a fairly confident, but still a relatively early intermediate, I started skied black diamonds when it wasn't busy. I was slower and tentative. I viewed it my responsiblity to reduce the risk I presented to the skiers who were on terrain rated for them. I saw myself the poacher / visitor.

As a farm kid, all our tractors and implements had a bright orange SLOW MOVING VEHICLE signs. I understood that to mean that we were responsible to alert others of our presence. Since we can't control other skiers, we have to focus on what we can actually do and give more attention to our own roles in skier safety.

On the slopes, I was laser focused on staying in a predictable lane and maintaining a consistent rhythm which is ideal for faster, advanced skiers to pass. But predicability is no easy task for a beginner, so I avoided the most popular runs and times. Stopping was avoided and only done in highly visible areas and well off to the side.

When looking to advance, you have to venture onto more advanced terrain. Talk to the mountain hosts and get advice for less crowded slopes are and if you're lucky, the resort will have advanced blues that have a mix of drops so you'll get short tastes of blacks that level out a bit between drops. If possible, do this on non-holidays and week days and learn which runs are the top to bottom speed runs and avoid them.

Shorter, less popular runs are used less often as race tracks. The terrain off gondolas is always much more popular and busy.

I've seen in the past 10 years, there's been a huge drop off in ski patrol enforcing safety (Skier's Responsibility Code). I can't remember the last time I saw ski patrol confront an out of control or too fast skier in the slow zones. But the truth is that reckless skiers are all over the mountain and posted signs mean little. My husband has seen to skier fatalities -- both in well posted SLOW ZONES and near the lifts.

Be extra alert around multi-age family groups, as their attention is often diverted and sudden changes in direction are common.

Pro Tip: Ski at smaller and independent resorts where massive crowds are less common.

Lastly, I did not allow my grandkids to ski outside the green slopes until they knew and understood the Skier's Responsibility Code. When they skied recklessly, they were immediately taken off the mountain for the remainder of the day. Big strides can be made if we all resolve to keep our own houses in order.

Be safe, wear highly visible colors, ski in control, and wear a helmet.
 

gourmetJo

Certified Ski Diva
Angel Diva
I think that some people equate skiing fast with being a good skier. I have a friend who has been skiing his entire life and he is such a graceful skier to watch. As we've all gotten a little older he has definitely slowed down but has still maintained great form. When we are skiing we are on our honor to ski in control and be aware of the Skier's Responsibility Code. Unfortunately, today there are a lot of people of all ages and genders who feel entitled and ski with no regard for anyone around them.

I was taking a women's clinic last year when a snowboarder came right up against another woman in our group. This woman happened to be dealing with PTSD and the incident with the boarder stressed her out so much she began to cry and wanted to end the day. Our instructor had a helmet cam and which caught the entire incident. When the instructor approached the boarder, who happened to have stopped along side the trail further down the hill, he and his girlfriend were very rude and flipped off the instructor as they got up to leave. Luckily the instructor had caught everything on her helmet cam and showed it to ski patrol. Ski patrol found this young man and his girlfriend, pulled their passes and banned them for the rest of the season once they saw the video.

I think if everyone was more considerate of the "slower skier" whether they are a newbie, an older person who just doesn't want to go as fast as they use to or someone who just enjoys skiing slowly there would be less issues.
 

Bsheresq

Certified Ski Diva
Angel Diva
I think that some people equate skiing fast with being a good skier. I have a friend who has been skiing his entire life and he is such a graceful skier to watch. As we've all gotten a little older he has definitely slowed down but has still maintained great form. When we are skiing we are on our honor to ski in control and be aware of the Skier's Responsibility Code. Unfortunately, today there are a lot of people of all ages and genders who feel entitled and ski with no regard for anyone around them.

I was taking a women's clinic last year when a snowboarder came right up against another woman in our group. This woman happened to be dealing with PTSD and the incident with the boarder stressed her out so much she began to cry and wanted to end the day. Our instructor had a helmet cam and which caught the entire incident. When the instructor approached the boarder, who happened to have stopped along side the trail further down the hill, he and his girlfriend were very rude and flipped off the instructor as they got up to leave. Luckily the instructor had caught everything on her helmet cam and showed it to ski patrol. Ski patrol found this young man and his girlfriend, pulled their passes and banned them for the rest of the season once they saw the video.

I think if everyone was more considerate of the "slower skier" whether they are a newbie, an older person who just doesn't want to go as fast as they use to or someone who just enjoys skiing slowly there would be less issues.
I don’t understand why it is so difficult to be a little considerate of others. I remember that snowboarder! Becky tried to talk to him and he wasn’t interested in listening. Glad to hear they got banned for season.
 

GladeDuchess

Certified Ski Diva
I got a link to the survey results of the slow skiers poll, but cannot open it as it says I need a Google account or something. Has anyone else gotten this, and can they post the results?
 

Christy

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I think that some people equate skiing fast with being a good skier. I have a friend who has been skiing his entire life and he is such a graceful skier to watch. As we've all gotten a little older he has definitely slowed down but has still maintained great form. When we are skiing we are on our honor to ski in control and be aware of the Skier's Responsibility Code. Unfortunately, today there are a lot of people of all ages and genders who feel entitled and ski with no regard for anyone around them.

I was taking a women's clinic last year when a snowboarder came right up against another woman in our group. This woman happened to be dealing with PTSD and the incident with the boarder stressed her out so much she began to cry and wanted to end the day. Our instructor had a helmet cam and which caught the entire incident. When the instructor approached the boarder, who happened to have stopped along side the trail further down the hill, he and his girlfriend were very rude and flipped off the instructor as they got up to leave. Luckily the instructor had caught everything on her helmet cam and showed it to ski patrol. Ski patrol found this young man and his girlfriend, pulled their passes and banned them for the rest of the season once they saw the video.

I think if everyone was more considerate of the "slower skier" whether they are a newbie, an older person who just doesn't want to go as fast as they use to or someone who just enjoys skiing slowly there would be less issues.
What mountain was this? It's nice to hear about a place that prioritizes safety and accountability.
 

marzNC

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
Very interesting info. Having almost 400 responses is a good start and shows sold interest in the topic. Not too surprising considering how potential respondents were likely to learn about the survey.

As a statistician who considered going into sampling and survey design as a specialty, what's missing in the summary report is an overview of the respondents. What region do they ski in the most? How many days per season on average? What percentage were women? What age group was most represented?
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
The results were definitely presented very subjectively. I know that I selected other for some of the responses and would have loved to have seen other respondents' written responses rather than an edited version of the results.

The mission of the organization seems very vast right now. From safety to merchandise to community of moms to just the fun of slow skiing I am not sure that it is presented in a way that will appeal to all those that it is trying to connect with. I am not a mom but I am the caregiver and person responsible for little people that I ski with. I am a huge proponent of safety and enforcing slow ski zones but also enjoy skiing fast when it is safe and appropriate. I actually prefer resorts that don't provide spas or fancy restaurants or amenities that cater to non skiers. I love mom and pop resorts with one or two lifts and zero shopping.

It appears that the PDF is designed as a marketing tool to represent an important group of customers to potential resorts as a source of financial growth.

I look forward to seeing how this evolves as some of the messaging is important even if I can't support all the messaging.
 

SnowHot

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I'm often reminded to slow down metaphroically, which translates to many activities in my life.

Earnie Els quote: (golf related)
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

I find this to be true when I slow my pace and think more methodically.... I actually am quicker when I'm slower because I'm not recovering from bad moves.
 

Knitjenious

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I'm often reminded to slow down metaphroically, which translates to many activities in my life.

Earnie Els quote: (golf related)
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

I find this to be true when I slow my pace and think more methodically.... I actually am quicker when I'm slower because I'm not recovering from bad moves.
I have a post-it stuck to my desk that says "don't rush the turn" -- which to me means much the same thing. (Rushing the turn actually slows you down and wastes a lot of energy.) It's my ongoing lesson for skiing and in life!
 

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