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Poles: the rite of passage

Amplify

Certified Ski Diva
How do you know if a kid is ready for poles? When did your kids start using them? When did YOU?

With my older kid, it felt easier because he wasn’t comparing himself directly to anybody else. We skied mostly as a family (covid era), and he was the older kid. When he was in lessons at Smuggler’s Notch one year, and his instructor said he would benefit from having poles, we got him poles, and that was that. Now, my younger kid is 7 and we ski a lot more socially than we did with the older one at this age, plus even within our family he’s the only one with no poles. Most of his friends had no poles last year but now suddenly they all have poles and he’s DYING for some. My plan had been to wait until we were at Smuggs again and see what the instructors there said, since I trust them to know this kind of stuff and it’s an easy way to be lazy about it. But we won’t be there until March, which is an eternity for a 7-year old. He’s in weekly ski lessons closer to home and he asked his instructor if he "could have poles," and the dude said sure, but his instructor at our local hill is much more of a “rando college kid” kind of vibe and so I felt like I’d rather have my own judgment factor in as well versus just blindly following his recommendation. And then I realized I don’t really know when/why kids would benefit from starting to use poles? Or, at least, not be negatively affected by it? So I kind of don’t have the judging ability to be like “yep, he is ready to have poles.”

He skis parallel a lot of the time, links parallel turns, and does easier blacks at this point. He is decent at skating on flats which was the main thing I personally wanted him to get from “no poles” skiing. I don’t see a lot of “need” for poles in his skiing – he isn’t doing moguls or anything like that yet – but I also don’t know if there’s anything else I should be keeping in mind as far as, like, reasons NOT to? Mostly it seems like a hassle, just another thing to drop/wrangle/etc. (I say this as my 10-year old just dropped his pole from the lift for the first time ever, last night!) But he wants them SO BADLY, it’s such a status thing, and if the main reason not to is just the hassle of it then I’ll have him start using them. I don’t remember when I got poles as a kid or why, but I also know we skied with hands on our knees until we got poles which is not how they teach anymore so obviously things have changed.

Anyone with any insight, experience, or anecdotes on this subject, I would appreciate hearing from you!
 

Kimmyt

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
We always had the rule of letting the kids have poles when they could ski parallel on a blue top to bottom which for both of my kids was about age 7-8. A further stipulation was that if they started using it as a weapon in the liftline, we would take it away for the next ski session which usually curbed that type of activity. Honestly there's something to be said for learning to manage poles at a certain point in skiing. They might not be using them effectively at first, but getting used to them so that when they do get into steeper terrain and moguls you aren't adding in poles as yet another new thing to get used to.
 

Jilly

Moderator
Staff member
If he's parallel then it's time. But if he decides to use them as a weapon...adult takes them away.
 

KWlovessnow

Certified Ski Diva
We always had the rule of letting the kids have poles when they could ski parallel on a blue top to bottom which for both of my kids was about age 7-8. A further stipulation was that if they started using it as a weapon in the liftline, we would take it away for the next ski session which usually curbed that type of activity. Honestly there's something to be said for learning to manage poles at a certain point in skiing. They might not be using them effectively at first, but getting used to them so that when they do get into steeper terrain and moguls you aren't adding in poles as yet another new thing to get used to.
We did almost the exact same thing and it worked really well. Same requirements to get them and same rules about using them as weapons. It was a smoother transition than I was expecting.
 

Amplify

Certified Ski Diva
These are great responses and have given me some feeling of being grounded. I really appreciate it!

Anecdote, on the chair lift on Friday with my 7-year old and his friend, I was kind of eavesdropping on their chatter and the friend was telling my son alllllll about "how to ski with poles" and I was like...my god, no, do not take this kid's advice dude. He was like "poles are good because if you are going too fast on a black diamond you can stick them in the ground to make you stop." I brought it up later in the car with my kid and he was like "yeah that doesn't sound true to me. I mean I guess maybe that helps you stop just like falling helps you stop." We had a good laugh about it and I reiterated that skiing with poles, the way we currently ski, is not too different than skiing without poles, it's mostly learning how to hold them. So I am thinking it's time to let him try out some easy days with poles and let him get a feel for them. If nothing else, it would be good for him to have his weekly lesson instructor giving him feedback on how to use them effectively, so I might as well have him use them through these lesson weeks.

He also is my kid with the most impulse-control issues so we will see how it goes. He has agreed that one single use of the poles as a weapon (whether there is actual hitting or not), a feigned weapon, a tool of threat, a tool of annoyance, etc means they go away and try again next year. We will be at Bousquet tomorrow for a chill day and I will see how it goes! Feels weirdly daunting to add this other thing to the pile of things to deal with, but I guess I felt this way when my older one got poles too.
 

Kimmyt

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I brought it up later in the car with my kid and he was like "yeah that doesn't sound true to me. I mean I guess maybe that helps you stop just like falling helps you stop."
Sounds like you've got a wise kiddo there!

Its taken my oldest a few years to get comfortable enough with his poles to start using them effectively, but he's not in any development programs or lessons to speed that process up and I'm mostly fine with him organically figuring it out. Plus I've had a bunch of lessons throughout my life and since he is luckily a kid who takes parental input well, I've been able to get him to take some well placed suggestions here and there. Half the time he still drops his back hand and sometimes has both his hands in his pockets but once in a while we see him start to use them almost correctly, like when I snapped this photo of him on a run recently. I think having poles is especially helpful once they are starting to explore moguls and black/double terrain. IMG_3366.jpeg
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I usually challenge the kids to carry one of my poles balanced across, on the tops of their outstretched hands in front of them like a tray but not holding it with an open palm but on the back side of the hands that are facing palm down. If they can ski an entire run through the winding trees on green terrain, that the kids love, without dropping the pole, then I know that they can keep their hands quiet enough while skiing along to actually hold one in each hand without having it interfere with their ability to ski.

Until they pass my little made up test, I feel that they can sometimes do more harm than good. Age itself is not really a factor.

The poles are really helpful in lift lines where there is not enough room to skate or do pizzas, yet stopping and moving forward are key.

Some kids decide after actually skiing with them that they really are not as amazing as they thought they would be.
 

floatingyardsale

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
My 8yo got poles at 6 because her best friend's mom broke the mompact that we had to have no poles until it wasn't a pain. Now she's learning to use them properly and her instructor says that when she uses pole plants she's a completely different skier so we're working on it. Today she performed the most beautiful turn - plant, boom

My 11yo uses poles only because ski school makes him, as he learned everything without them and he's an advanced skier (parallel on everything, everything is a jump.). When he uses pole plants he is likely to use the wrong pole so it's a little silly.
 

Briski

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Poles are a key to progressing into dynamic parallel. I’m not saying you can’t do it with them, but they are timing and balance tools. Instruction regarding chair management and proper strap usage will help reduce injuries. I caught a basket in the trees once, if I hadn’t been using the straps correctly I would have needed a new shoulder.
 

Maine Divaaaaa

Diva in Training
I had this friend who was an amazing skier. We would ski ◆◆ glades, 50+ degree headwalls, and huge moguls together, and she never had poles until she was 12. This was good, as she learned how to skate and was very comfortable in her skis, but the thing was, racing. If the pole roles had been reversed, it would have been harder for me since I became a racer later that year and pole use was essential. Your kid sounds exactly like my brother, who got poles last year when he was 7. I would give your kid poles, especially if there's a chance he'll race someday. I agree with the pole fighting thing though. If it happens, the poles go away!
 

Amplify

Certified Ski Diva
Just to update in case any are curious, he has skied four days with poles so far and I've been so surprised by how naturally he's taken to them! By which I mean, he uses them kind of exactly how I "want him to" at this age, aka he does not really use them at all while skiing on his standard fare (not really doing much moguls or trees yet), but holds them pretty naturally/stays fluid and doesn't get rigid or robotic in his arm placement; he still primarily skates on flats unless it's a truly long way and then he uses the poles for a boost here and there; he is 100% responsible for all carrying/managing of them without complaint; and he is not fighting anyone with them lol. So I guess it was an okay time to introduce them! Phew.
 

brooksnow

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
That's great, @Amplify!

I spent the afternoon today with a school group working on safe pole usage. The biggest challenges were skating and hockey stops, with the pole tips kept down and in control instead of swinging wildly. I'm not a fan of pointy ends flinging around near me or others. They got much better at it, but it will take some reminders and practice.

My favorite quote from the day: "I like to drag my poles to help me turn and slow down." Um, no. But I'll get to that probably next week. For today, dragging poles are not dangerous to others so I'll take it. Small steps.
 

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