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Movement Analysis Diva Style

Jilly

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Staff member
Well now, that is just what I needed. I'm looking at taking my level 3 CSIA this year. So what do I see. A very stiff skier - no forward flex at the ankle and that makes the skiers sit back. Another reason for sitting back is that the poles are too long. Skier needs to keep hands too high. Edging skills are lacking too. Last run through the moguls was better. So, for improvement - loosen up, ski a groomed run by bouncing at the ankles, knees and hips. Like boucing a basketball down the run. To add move movement during that run, shoot a hoop. Next run keep boucing and work on edging skills. Apply edge and release. Next to the moguls themselves. I like to take a mogul on the top, turning there, because that way you slow down on the crest and accelerate on the backside. Also you are now turning so if there is anything in the way on the backside you can avoid it. In Moguls keep the body low and always flexed. Start by keeping the hands low all the time. Plant pole on backside of mogul and drive forward. This eliminated the sitting back. I could go on, but now I want to see how these skiers do with that much info. Let's go for a run!!:D
 

Lynn

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I am just an intermediate skier, but here goes. Lots of back seat driving, dropped hands drifting behind the skiers. Really bad poling, timing non existent. Mostly sliding, little use of edges.
The skiers look mostly self taught, enthusiastic and having a great time despite really poor conditions. It's icy and or slushy. They're young and have lots of time to learn and improve.
 

snowflake

Certified Ski Diva
Looks like the person has nice balance and speed control.
I too would look into the backseat issue, maybe check the boots. The could be to stiff for the skier.
The second thing I would do is have the student open his stance. (maybe gorilla turns) Then slowly bring in the idea of more edging and pressure and a lot less rotary. Right now the student looks like windshield wiper skies, I'd like to see there be more of a skill blend.:smile:
 

tcarey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Great observations all! The terrrain in this video is really quite gnarley and the guys in this look like they are maybe in their mid-teens.They probably don't really case what they look like but there was so much going on it was a good video to start with.
Jilly- I like the idea of getting them to do some bouncing. Maybe this may help them to be more aware of those ankles!! Of course terrain selection would be much more tame.I also the the bouncing or small leapers may help to get them more centered over their skiis.

IMHO I would definatley work the boot balance issue first.I think this once accomplish then I would work on some of the other skills.

Just for conversation Jilly-I think a skier in the bumps should have a range of motion to work with. Not always flexed or extended-rather working both ends of the spectrum.

More thoughts?

Terry
 

ski diva

Administrator
Staff member
Thanks for sharing the video! And those were some great observations!

I'll agree -- the skiing looked pretty raw and not very controlled. But I do give them props for making those jumps. That's not something I have any desire to do.

Loved the wipeouts, too. Glad they walked (rather, skied) away okay.
 

Jilly

Moderator
Staff member
I guess what I'm really trying to say by being flexed is that the one thing you do not want is to stand tall and locked. You need to be ready for anything. Like the ready position for tennis. And I do give them credit for trying anything. I'm glad I'm not paying for the tune-ups!! Regarding the "boucing" I do this first run on the run out to the main hill. It's fairly flat. So by boucing you loosen up the joints, get your balance and figure out the snow conditions all while warming up. Now the run we normally take for first run has at least a 500 yard run out to use. Hard to do if you only have 250 vertical feet to start with. Foot placement in the bumps is closer than on a groomed run. But I think the Gorilla turns would still be useful as that is probably a problem on the groomers. This kids are all brawns and brash. But a Diva wants to look good while she's having fun!
 

liquidfeet

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Honestly, it's so affirming to see videos of people falling down and losing their skis. Usually the videos that people post only show them looking their best, often stiffly keeping total control so as not to look too bad. And then there are the real extreme experts showing off, which I will never be able to do anyway so I'm not even jealous of them any more.

This video at Mad River Glen reminds me of what I do often - go out and try something beyond my capabilities, then try it again, and then again until I get it. I laughed and laughed. Refreshing!
 

snowflake

Certified Ski Diva
I would like to take back my first answer.

For some reason the first video I saw was not what i just now saw. The video I did analysis on was of a skier skiing on piste in a bit crowded area. Who knows where I got that, but looking at the other MA's I thought something was up.

Oops :D
 

Bonni

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Backseats are only good for teens at a drive in. :cool:

At least everyone lived through that day! :D

Fun!!
 

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