Hey ladies. I am looking for thoughts about the 104 width Moment Sierra. some people hate the triple camber. I am an intermediate skiier who has mostly only backcountry skiied but hitting the resort this winter. Skiing wet heavy snow of the west coast, Revelstoke in BC, and Whistler. I tend to struggle with the heavy chopped up powder, and trees. would love to get better at those. Folks I know love the QST for groomers, the skinnier version. Cant find much about the 104 Sierra. Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Help Needed: Moment skis for heavy wet powder
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Emms
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Sierra’s more like a women’s Deathwish — both with the triple camber. Bella will be closer to a Wildcat. There is so little from women who have skied Moment that I could find online that I ended up reading a lot about the men’s versions to try and figure them out.
I had a pair of the Hot Mess which I didn’t love and sold. Hard to get your hands on Moments in BC and certainly not to demo so it’s a lot of money to take a flier on something that is really polarizing, people seem to either love or hate the triple camber.
I had a pair of the Hot Mess which I didn’t love and sold. Hard to get your hands on Moments in BC and certainly not to demo so it’s a lot of money to take a flier on something that is really polarizing, people seem to either love or hate the triple camber.
mustski
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@WaterGirl Did you have the Sierras or the Wildcat?
sarai
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I really wanted to buy some Moment Sierras but because I am new to skiing and Moment Skis are so expensive my friend convinced me to wait until I'm ready to buy my third pair of skis and get something more forgiving (I think ) for my second. I ended up buying some Black Crow Camox Birdies instead.
I talked extensively with a Moment salesperson and as I understood it, the Bella are a good powder ski. I wanted the Sierra because they are a playful ski - my desire was to find a ski to have fun with, something that could get me into doing some beginner level freestyle skiing without having a dedicated park ski. The Bella is built to be stable in powder, and that was not what I was looking for so I wasn't interested in the Bella.
This below is directly from an email from a salesperson at Moment. I was a bit confused about the women's skis and how they differed. Understanding that the Bella and Sierra were just softer more flexible versions of the Wildcat and Deathwish respectively helped me understand what ski I was looking for.
"The Wildcat and Bella are essentially the same ski, with the Bella (poplar/ pine) being a softer and more forgiving choice and the Wildcat (poplar/ ash) being stiffer and more stable at higher speeds.
The Deathwish and the Sierra also have the same construction, with the Sierra having a poplar/ pine core for an easier flex profile, while the Deathwish uses a poplar/ beech core which is even stiffer than the Wildcat."
This is an in depth review of the Bella from a Ski Diva.
https://www.theskidiva.com/forums/index.php?threads/moment-bella-review.28541/
Goodluck. Hope this helps!
sarai
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The Sierra is the women's version of the Deathwish. The Bella is the women's version of the Wildcat. Glad you like your Wildcats, I think I am going to get the tour version of those if I manage to get into backcountry!
Olesya C
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I went heliskiing on them last year and they were great. I think you will like them for backcountry skiing; I think they are versatile and can handle not only powder but also variable snow you can get in the backcountry well. Interesting that in the review link the reviewer found Bella (women's version of Wildcat) quite demanding and stiff. I don't find them stiff or demanding at all - just right, but I am over 6 ft tall and around 190 pounds so that probably changes a lot of how skis feel to me.
sarai
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Oh my!!! I just learned about heliskiing a few months back. Sounds soooo amazing! That's great you got to do that.
Yeah I feel like reviews can really depend on a person's height, weight, and also strength for sure. You have the stature I always wished I had as a whitewater river guide. I'm 5'6" and about 120lbs. My favourite skier is Candide Thovex who is the same height and around the same weight as me. That helps me keep things in perspective, smaller stature can be made up for with more power. Needless to say I've been doing a lot of squats
Thanks for the added endorsement for the Wildcats. I'm so excited for my first backcountry adventures!
WaterGirl
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I have the Bellas 108, with the Raven top sheet with a few runs on them. Jury still out. But if they end up not working I will sell, and based on this years topsheet should have no problems finding a new home..... unless there are a plethora of women who love looking at eyeballs.......
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sarai
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That is an interesting direction they went in The guy I spoke to at Moment said they were trying to move away from women's skis being women's skis because they really are suitable for both men and women...it largely depends on their physiology and skiing style. So I guess they were trying to make the topsheet less girly and went with dripping eyeballs haha.I have the Bellas 108, with the Raven top sheet with a few runs on them. Jury still out. But if they end up not working I will sell, and based on this years topsheet should have no problems finding a new home..... unless there are a plethora of women who love looking at eyeballs.......
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Sokolva
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My husband just surprised me with a set of Sierra 104s to celebrate passing my Comprehensive Exams for my PhD, so I'll be trying these out myself and will report back once I get to try them in the early ski season. I can say that my personally favorite skis are my Moment Sierras from several years back (96 width, 162 length). I personally love the triple camber, and was extremely stoked to see them offer this ski in different widths, because I was looking for a ski for deeper conditions when I hike into the powder at the top of the mountain. My 96 Sierras in Wolf Creek did great, until the snow got DEEP. And last year was a low tide year, so I started looking for something to add to my quiver that was wider, and these may be the perfect answer since I'm a Sierra fan.
I did call the Moment factory to ask them some questions about the women's lineup this year as compared with the men's, because I noticed they offered for instance the men's Moment Deathwish 104 in the exact dimensions and apparent size profile as the Sierra 104, but with different wood construction. They said they actually tweaked the women's line pretty significantly this year and gave it what they saw as a lot of optimizations and changes for the better. The person I spoke with on the phone said that overall, the Men's Deathwish 104 was a bit more damp and more heavy, while the women's Sierra was more lively, springy, and light. They said in testing, most women gravitated towards the women's builds rather then the men's, which they took into account as they developed and experiment with the women's line. He said this year they were putting a lot of effort into the women's lineup and wanting to give women what they had been asking for from Moment. Must have been someone with a different perspective than @sarai spoke to. I've heard interviews where Luke, the owner of Moment, discussed how despite having womens and men's skis, he said they were essentially the same skis but built for different sizes and weights when it came to developing them with women athletes. However, they always offered specific women's and men's skis with different wood, dimensions, builds and art, so despite this unisex philosophy, the practice felt very gendered to me.
I know this is a debate that people have had, but my impression was that this year they were trying to expand the women's specific lineup (which is also skiied by light men, based on the reviews on some of them) to meet different niches and needs, and I'm definitely for that. Too many small companies just didn't even make offerings that fit my size as a petite woman, or only offered a single ski for me to choose from, so I'm happy to see Moment expanding women's lineup.
Since the new Sierra's in all waist widths are a departure from the past models, only the testers and those who already have an active season and bought them early have probably tried any of the new women's lines yet, so I'm excited to hear other opinions, and eagerly looking forward to the start of the snowfall in Taos and Wolf Creek, my closest mountains!
HuntersEmma57
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It'd be helpful to me to have some clarification on the definition of powder being used here. Heavy and wet is like the opposite of powder to me and benefits from a different ski. Are you referring to backcountry skiing as powder skiing or fresh snow in a general sense as powder?
I ski in Utah as a season passer. I am youngish retiree and ski 5+ days a week and love storm skiing in the trees and challenging the drifts. I am 5'5, 160#, and muscular and year 'round mountain active on the water and in the mountains so I can drive a big ski with ease.
For Utah powder, I know ski nothing but Voilé skis which are all born and bred for the backcountry. They are very light and enviably capable in highly variable conditions found in the backcountry or on big mountains inbounds. I use them inbounds mounted with alpine bindings.
Since skiing is the major activity in my life, I have a quiver and use different ski depending on the snow depth and conditions. Voilè V8 (114) are my widest and for pure, 12"+ new bottomless deep days in light powder. They are surprising agile with superior floatation.
If I had to have only one ski, it'd hands down be the Voilè Superchargers (106). For me, they truly shine in 6-12" fresh in off piste powder, but ably handle all conditions, chopped up stuff, dense and can even slay soft groomers. It is the most intuitive, responsive, versatile ski I have ever put on. All I have to do is think about turning. This is my daily ski in Utah during the active snowfall periods.
The Voilè V6 98 were my AT mounted backcountry ski. Then Powder Mountain closed access to the backcountry and pre- and post-season resort skiing so I just mounted them with alpine bindings and sold my BC gear. They handle the variable snow conditions found in the backcountry, but can work wonderfully as an inbounds ski, I'll likely use them for velvet over groomers and as an "old snow" groomer ski.
We don't have much in the way of firm sunbaked groomers here. When we do, I use the Black Pearl 97 or my rock ski which is a old Line Prophet 98. I find both of these skis require an aggressive driver and will hold an edge beautifully, but there's no relaxing. They have to be ridden hard.
For the I-70 resorts in CO I pretty much just ski groomers on Black Pearl 97 as they handle the chop and densely skied out, packed snow as well as lucky early morning or daytime freshies, but I always have the Superchargers along. For Targhee and Jackson, Whistler & Fernie, I'd take the Superchargers and V6's. I don't ski Revelstoke or Kicking Horse, but I'd be sure to bring my V8s if I did.
Ahhhh, I wish I could participate in this discussion. Alas, I mostly ski eastern sheet ice. Retirement is on the immediate horizon, however!!
Thanx for giving me the chance to learn stuff ahead of time.
Thanx for giving me the chance to learn stuff ahead of time.
To be fair, I've skied only one pair of Moments and I felt that they were just meh. Nothing blew me away but I felt like it needed more of my input that I want to give if I'm skiing a powder day.I have the Bellas 108, with the Raven top sheet with a few runs on them. Jury still out. But if they end up not working I will sell, and based on this years topsheet should have no problems finding a new home..... unless there are a plethora of women who love looking at eyeballs.......
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There are far better options in that width, especially for the OP who sates herself as an intermediate.
