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I Purchased CARV

Alyssm

Angel Diva
No issues with the battery while skiing. You want to set the data and updates to only sync on wifi though.

Disclaimer: I haven't skied with the Carv 2 new release yet and the training options are a little different now, but as described above in this thread, Active Coach gives you audio signals if you perform a turn well or not (cheery Bing if good, bass Bong if not). It grades you on a curve, so your targets are set at your level of ability. You can play with how are you moving to get instant feedback on whether the movement helps (Bing or Bong). There's a graphic in the app that shows what good balance will look like (higher force mid turn) and a graphic for what your turn looks like (sigh) and videos that show what the different balance metrics are and a description of why its important. I definitely found it helpful to focus on my body and the audio feedback instead of "omigod there's a patch of ice".

I like Active Coach, but I only use it intermittently so that skiing stays fun. I like to warm up on some easy runs, just letting Carv record. After every run, it will suggest what metric it thinks you should focus on, but you can override it in Active Coach. I pick a run I'm familiar with and comfortable on and ski it 3 to 4 times using Active coach. Sometimes I pair it will a drills like ski pole dragging, or balancing both poles horizontally in front of me. You will see the data in the app after each run so you can compare changes when you try different movements or drills. One thing I've learned about balance is that Falling Leaf is awesome. When I finally figured out how to do it (combo of Carv balance tips and a ski lesson), I was like "wow, being centered on your skis is a game changer". I make a point of doing Falling leaf at least a couple of times every ski day. I'm still working on my Whirlybirds.
 

contesstant

Angel Diva
I second this. I've been skiing with Carv for 4 seasons. It has helped me considerably, but probably not in the way its advertised. Carv will give you specific data points regarding balance, turn shape, edging etc. but I don't always find the tips all that helpful in translating what I need to do to physically, so I've also spent hours researching ski mechanics to understand why the movements are necessary. Also, its important to know that they metrics are summarized from when you start and end a run. By end, you have to pause long enough for the turn monitor to stop. I've found its best to pause at the top of a section of a run, set yourself up for the metric you're working on and then stop before you get to a flatter run out or intersection. That way your metrics are dialed into a specific focus area for you. I'm planning to take a private lesson at Sugarloaf this January to work on my turn shape and fear of bumps, and I'll have Carv clipped to my boots the whole time.

PS
It has helped my skiing. I am much more confident on steeper, icier terrain that I was prior to using Carv. I have a much better understanding of why I'm my own worst enemy with my upper body in those conditions and what I should be doing instead.
GREAT feedback. Getting out with mine today at Targhee! My husband also has it so it will be interesting to compare the feedback he gets as a highly technically skilled skier and me, who is terminally intervanced :tongue:
 

santacruz skier

Angel Diva
Can't wait to hear your feedback. I'm afraid I would beat myself up if a lower score or too much criticism.... "Oh no, I'm still not carving after 45+ years of skiing."
 

SnowHot

Angel Diva
While skiing this morning, Phil was using his Carv2 and we happened to stop in a spot whrere two other guys were standing. Phil mentions to me what CARV was saying in his ear buds. One of the guys overhears us and says, "Are you Phil? You just passed me on CARV. I wanted to meet you!"

Turns out this guy and Phil have been close in numbers and keep leap frogging each other's numbers at Mt Rose.

Those two had a bromance and I went off to ski alone for a bit. :wink:
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
While skiing this morning, Phil was using his Carv2 and we happened to stop in a spot whrere two other guys were standing. Phil mentions to me what CARV was saying in his ear buds. One of the guys overhears us and says, "Are you Phil? You just passed me on CARV. I wanted to meet you!"

Turns out this guy and Phil have been close in numbers and keep leap frogging each other's numbers at Mt Rose.

Those two had a bromance and I went off to ski alone for a bit. :wink:
That’s awesome! Haha
 

SnowHot

Angel Diva
FWIW, Phil started a group (or whatever they call it on CARV) for SkiTalk.
Maybe somoene on SkiDiva wants to start one.
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
FWIW, Phil started a group (or whatever they call it on CARV) for SkiTalk.
Maybe somoene on SkiDiva wants to start one.
Unfortunately I forgot my Carv at home when rushing out today. Will have to try them out next weekend.

What does the group do?
 

SnowHot

Angel Diva
Unfortunately I forgot my Carv at home when rushing out today. Will have to try them out next weekend.

What does the group do?
I have no idea. I think they follow each other and can track who is getting what kind of numbers.
Sort of like strava but ski technique specific.
 

WaterGirl

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Does anyone have experience in sharing this with another person?
 

marzNC

Angel Diva
Does anyone have experience in sharing this with another person?
We asked about that at the booth at Snowbound Expo. The history for an account is geared to one person. So if another skier uses that CARV account, the data is confounded. The only way to delete data is to call Customer Service and ask for certain "segments" to be deleted. It's really meant for only one skier.

The story we heard was of a case in Europe when someone let a World Cup ski racer use their CARV. That shot the owner up to the top of the CARV Leaderboard in a day. The anomaly was noticed at the home office. Don't know how the found out what happened but sounds like the office staff got in a good laugh at the time.
 

diymom

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I wonder if future versions will be set up for multiple user accounts. I would think that having one account and support included in the price and the option to pay for additional accounts linked to different phones should be doable. That could also ease a customer into the idea of buying additional units if the shared set is always subject to dibs.
 

contesstant

Angel Diva
OK, feedback after one day of use at Grand Targhee on very limited terrain (most of the mountain is open, but I like my brand new Black Pearls and wasn't in the mood to gouge the crap out of them.)

Anyway, I really like CARV! I have one MAJOR issue in my skiing that haunts me and has for years--I have a stem turn entry which is worse on my right turns. CARV picked that up on run #1 and that's ALL it focused on the entire day. Even better is the data which includes graphics of my turns--it all highlighted that I stem my right turns much worse (my left turns it's almost non-existent) and I have a divergent tip on my right turns. The graphics all show that.

I am actually thinking this does, in fact, point to a very minor alignment issue and I'm going to be contacting Brent Amsbury for an appointment at which I will share what CARV is showing. I tried and tried and tried to eliminate the stem move, and was only minorly successful.

My husband loves it--he has been harping on me about that stupid stem since we met. What I like about CARV is it continues to push me to work on it. I did gain 10 points in improvement on it from run 1 until the end of the day. What I normally do is work on something, get frustrated, then quit. This motivated me to keep working on it which I REALLY need.

My husband was a freakin' Grim Ripper on run #3 which is the second from the "best" which is no surprise as he is a highly-skilled skier, but this also proves that the CARV system's analytics are accurate.

I tried to not focus too much on what level it put me into, and just if I was improving on the turn release metrics. I think it's a great system!
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
OK, feedback after one day of use at Grand Targhee on very limited terrain (most of the mountain is open, but I like my brand new Black Pearls and wasn't in the mood to gouge the crap out of them.)

Anyway, I really like CARV! I have one MAJOR issue in my skiing that haunts me and has for years--I have a stem turn entry which is worse on my right turns. CARV picked that up on run #1 and that's ALL it focused on the entire day. Even better is the data which includes graphics of my turns--it all highlighted that I stem my right turns much worse (my left turns it's almost non-existent) and I have a divergent tip on my right turns. The graphics all show that.

I am actually thinking this does, in fact, point to a very minor alignment issue and I'm going to be contacting Brent Amsbury for an appointment at which I will share what CARV is showing. I tried and tried and tried to eliminate the stem move, and was only minorly successful.

My husband loves it--he has been harping on me about that stupid stem since we met. What I like about CARV is it continues to push me to work on it. I did gain 10 points in improvement on it from run 1 until the end of the day. What I normally do is work on something, get frustrated, then quit. This motivated me to keep working on it which I REALLY need.

My husband was a freakin' Grim Ripper on run #3 which is the second from the "best" which is no surprise as he is a highly-skilled skier, but this also proves that the CARV system's analytics are accurate.

I tried to not focus too much on what level it put me into, and just if I was improving on the turn release metrics. I think it's a great system!
Great review, thanks for sharing!! I’m still annoyed I forgot mine at home this weekend with the hustle and bustle of leaving for Thanksgiving ahead of coming to the mountain Thursday morning. This makes me even more excited to try them next weekend though.
 

santacruz skier

Angel Diva
Great review, thanks for sharing!! I’m still annoyed I forgot mine at home this weekend with the hustle and bustle of leaving for Thanksgiving ahead of coming to the mountain Thursday morning. This makes me even more excited to try them next weekend though.
It will be fun to hear everyone's feedback !
 

contesstant

Angel Diva
My advice for new users is set it up to automatically coach you on system settings vs. custom, where you choose. This way, the system picks up on what it’s determining you most need to focus on. It sure nailed my biggest weakness!
 

Ermit

Angel Diva
I haven’t either. I’m a founding member who upgraded from Carv 1 almost a month ago but haven’t yet received the new version. Just checked and no shipping updates.

My new sensors came just after I posted that they hadn't arrived I skied with them a couple of days at Killington last week, mostly to get in the habit of having them on more frequently and making use of the data (I've not consistently done that previously, but new season new habits). One of my biggest issues with the old sensors is that they were designed to measure 'carving' on groomed snow, but I'm often in variable conditions and/or with my kids goofing around. The new sensors are supposed to discern the type of snow that you are on, but mine did not (even on trails that don't typically have snowmaking and are more natural, such as Northstar at Killington). There were some pretty good bumps out there and interesting early season conditions. So, I'm looking in to how to update that. Unless I'm missing something?

Separately, my impression is that PSIA is trying to get more instructors using Carv and has really ramped that up (I am a level 1 though started using Carv before I thought about becoming an instructor). There will be a Carv workshop at the Eastern Academy at Killington in December:

Come ski with National Team Members and learn how to use Carv. Carv provides real-time audio coaching and personalized tips as you ski, or detailed insights and data analysis back in the lodge. Clip the sensors onto each ski boot strap in seconds. It sends data to your phone via bluetooth as you ski. Just go skiing and let the magic happen. Carv turns your boot movement into simple, clear coaching tips. Get the level of coaching you want, when you want with real-time audio feedback. Carv also recognises the terrain you're on and adapts your Ski:IQ and coaching, whether you're in powder, moguls or any other conditions! The National Team Members will help you interpret your data and help prioritize what to work on. Come learn how to use CARV in your own personal skiing and in your lessons. Limit 30
 

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