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I Purchased CARV

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Finally a segment fully carved… I tend to always have a little tiny bit that’s parallel in mostly carved segments, and was excited to see this one this morning on a nicely groomed run first thing. Frustratingly, I still have not managed to get over my 138 high IQ score this season yet. I am very much wanting to break 140 and it is so annoying to get multiple turns above 140 within most segments but not enough for the SkiIQ to actually get there yet! Really enjoying Carv though and hope to have some time soon to really work with the training modes that were recently added back that I haven’t gotten to experiment with.

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snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
Nicely done with the carving only run. I too struggle to reach the next level but am consitently scoring higher for all the sgments of the day. I do wish that they would give us a recap of the day with the average for the whole day and more importantly the best number for each metric for the day. I don't have the patience to look at all the metrics for every segment when I often have over 30 segments per day.
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Nicely done with the carving only run. I too struggle to reach the next level but am consitently scoring higher for all the sgments of the day. I do wish that they would give us a recap of the day with the average for the whole day and more importantly the best number for each metric for the day. I don't have the patience to look at all the metrics for every segment when I often have over 30 segments per day.
I agree, an overview would be great because there are way too many things to go through individually. I most often will go through a handful of my highest segments along with anything interesting like new terrain or certain conditions etc. It can definitely be a bit overwhelming.
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
Thank you for creating the Ski Diva group. I just joined. I am not very confident in the reliability of the app as my best score makes zero sense relative to my other runs which were much better. Also, the run it score a bunch of us highly on at my home hill is positively not a black run. Quite on the contrary. Odd. Otherwise the data for all my other lower scores is spot on....lol.
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Thank you for creating the Ski Diva group. I just joined. I am not very confident in the reliability of the app as my best score makes zero sense relative to my other runs which were much better. Also, the run it score a bunch of us highly on at my home hill is positively not a black run. Quite on the contrary. Odd. Otherwise the data for all my other lower scores is spot on....lol.
I can very much relate. Sometimes I feel like a superstar and Carv is like hmmmmm NOPE! Then I'll be going along feeling nothing too special and it's all, "Now that's what I'm talking about Melissa!!!" :noidea: :laughter:
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I can very much relate. Sometimes I feel like a superstar and Carv is like hmmmmm NOPE! Then I'll be going along feeling nothing too special and it's all, "Now that's what I'm talking about Melissa!!!" :noidea: :laughter:
In my case it tells me the score was very high and then I look at the actual data and it's way lower as in really low compared to other segments where I score overall lower but have much better percentages. In other words actually think it totally messed up. I have attached a photo to show that there's absolutely no way that my highest score came from this run where 100% of my turns were supposedly a snow plow.1000029237.jpg
 

cholinga

Certified Ski Diva
I can very much relate. Sometimes I feel like a superstar and Carv is like hmmmmm NOPE! Then I'll be going along feeling nothing too special and it's all, "Now that's what I'm talking about Melissa!!!" :noidea: :laughter:
Haha, same here! One of my highest scoring "runs" was actually when I was skating... and UPHILL at that! Yet every time I feel like I'm really grooving and about to get my best score ever, it puts me in my place and makes me question my sanity.

I've been using Carv for over 2 years now, starting with Carv 1 and now have Carv 2. After all that time I'm still not certain how I feel about it...
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I've been chatting a fair bit with my ski instructing colleagues who use it. A couple of them who are in the highest scores of all users and only a couple of points off of Ted leggedy mentioned that in order to score that high they ski specifically to score high. In other words they're normal best turns are not automatically going to be the highest scoring ones. Don't get me wrong, these guys are insanely good skiers but I think the point is that the tweak their skiing in such a way that they know that the scores will be in the 170s.
 

Susan L

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I've been chatting a fair bit with my ski instructing colleagues who use it. A couple of them who are in the highest scores of all users and only a couple of points off of Ted leggedy mentioned that in order to score that high they ski specifically to score high. In other words they're normal best turns are not automatically going to be the highest scoring ones. Don't get me wrong, these guys are insanely good skiers but I think the point is that the tweak their skiing in such a way that they know that the scores will be in the 170s.
Did they say what they tweaked?
My best scores are on the flatest slopes in the slowest speed. Not when I was cruising freely around the mountain.
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
They did not, but their highest scores are often on blacks where they can generate the speed necessary for the high scoring G's. If you go to carv and look at the global leaderboard they are currently in 13th and 17th place. They are the Flynns. Bart's is on a 30 degree pitch and George's is on a 28 degree pitch. My highest that I trust is on a 27 degree pitch. Though I rank in the 7000s not in the teens lol.

I suspect that some of the tricks have to do with finding a run that has a consistently even pitch from side to side, and top to bottom. I also know that the first and last turns have to be spot on as the IQ is the average of the turns and I don't think that more than one or two bad ones are excluded from the computation. But that is my guess. I bet there are more techy threads on some forums that help people score higher. I am not using it that way as much as for the specific parameters so I won't bother looking it up this season.
 

WaterGirl

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Does this really help an intermediate skier? I'm debating getting this for DH. Certainly the cost is cheaper then the $$$$ lessons where we are at.
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I've been chatting a fair bit with my ski instructing colleagues who use it. A couple of them who are in the highest scores of all users and only a couple of points off of Ted leggedy mentioned that in order to score that high they ski specifically to score high. In other words they're normal best turns are not automatically going to be the highest scoring ones. Don't get me wrong, these guys are insanely good skiers but I think the point is that the tweak their skiing in such a way that they know that the scores will be in the 170s.
I wish I had the ability to tweak my turns that way! :smile: I think that comes down in the category of... the better skier you are the more you can manipulate the skis to do anything you want them to. Like I am quite sure my scores would jump more than that little bit I want them to if I could get my edge angles higher than low 40 degrees and my g-force up with everything else staying where it is... but I have not been able to make that happen either lol. Everyone I look at with very high scores seems to have their edge angles in the 60 degree range.

If anyone know exactly how to increase g-force please do tell because mine has been pretty darn static. It does go up at times, but nowhere close to where they want it for me on groomed terrain it seems. To be fair though, I haven't recently been actively trying to increase edge angles and g-force because they just aren't the metrics that seem important to me in my everyday skiing off piste. I've been more interested in other edging metrics and balance metrics in my turns overall.
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
@MissySki for Gs and angles speed are the answer. Not a metric I enjoy pursuing without b netting on the side of the runs in case i blow out.
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
@MissySki for Gs and angles speed are the answer. Not a metric I enjoy pursuing without b netting on the side of the runs in case i blow out.
There are some people on SkiTalk who have posted really high score metrics and I don't think their speed was too crazy. I'd have to go back and check. When I can get an open green groomer to carve on my speeds usually max out in the mid-high 30s. I don't really feel a desire to go much faster than that in general as my little internal voice already says things about what would happen if we caught an edge at that speed sometimes. :frown:
 

snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I don't think that carv posts the speeds so we won't really have a way to know. I just know that in order to get the hip touching the snow some speed is involved.
 

MissySki

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
They do post speeds. For example, this is the highest person on the leaderboard for Ski Talk. If you click on the person’s run and scroll down on the main page it’s there.

This is a SkiIq of 170 with 66 degrees edge angle and 2.3 g force with a max speed of only 26.8mph. :(

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snoWYmonkey

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
Thanks for that info. I kust be so focused on the rest that I only noticed my own top speeds for the day. Gs are interesting to ponder. Base weight times say 2.6 for a heavy person is much more to resist than a light person.
 

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