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Hyped Gear You've Hated.

ski diva

Administrator
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Has there ever been a boot/ski/jacket/pole/etc. that everyone seems to love except for you????

Granted, your equipment is a matter of personal taste. But every so often there's something that everyone goes nuts over, so you try it out, and it just doesn't work out for you.

What did it for you? And why?

Please note: We're all entitled to our likes and dislikes, so treat other opinions with respect.
 

MaineSkiLady

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Interesting topic!
I've had a few skis I've not liked, and more than a few boots. My first foray into the shaped ski revolution was the venerable K2 Four ('96, '97??). It was okay. Some loved it. The bindings were the absolute worst, though: Markers, which weighed a TON, with additional riser plates (were not integral to the binding), which weighed even more. (What were they made of, lead?? :noidea:) The skis were okay - they were 178's, quite a drop down from my previous, usual 190 -- but those bindings....carrying the skis was NOT fun.

Years prior, I had a pair of Olin Mark III S that were liked cooked noodles. Fun in bumps and nowhere else. Sold after one season.

Don't even get me started with the rear-entry boot stuff, which dominated the market for a period of time (too long).

DH and I have both had jackets (different brands) with zip-in liners that created ice between the liner and shell due to not "breathing." Both jackets given away.
 

Jilly

Moderator
Staff member
Soft boots by Rossignol. I felt like I was wearing high heels to ski. Lasted exactly 2 days and decided that that wasn't right. Great to get into or out of, but something was wrong for me with the foot position in the boot.
 

bklyn

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
K2 Phat Luv (the year of all pink flowers)
179 Fat BRO (07/08)

I absolutely hated these. I spent time with them, trying to analyze if it was the bindings, me on an off day, or something else about the setup and have determined that these skis were just plain awful. I think the flex patterns were off yet others seem to love them.

I have an even longer list of "hyped" things that my friends have bought that have inspired an intense dislike. Skiing/riding should be simple and easy and most of these doodads are time wasters that don't benefit enough for their hassle:

Hottronics - often not functional because the battery wasn't charged overnight. Someone is always still cold, losing the battery, fiddling with the controls. I only have one friend who isn't constantly adjusting them.

Heated Gloves - see Hottronics.

Boot Gloves - have to be removed for adjustments, often lost or forgotten, interferes with boot/binding interface.

Leki Grips - comes off when you need them on, and won't release when you need them off.

Hot Bootbags - can't be left in the lodge for fear of theft, unexpected things melt in them.

Sportubes - can't fold down to save space in rental cars and are eyesores indoors, never reassembled correctly by TSA thereby causing contents to spill out or get lost in transit. Do not provide superior enough protection over conventional ski bags+ smart packing to merit the hassle.

I also have a bone to pick with the whole hyped womens ski phenomenon, which has pumped out more duds than gems. The manfacturers are going overboard on the womens' specific aka the Jeannie Thoren effect...

Boots: overly soft, short, super cushy liners with fake fur that pack out instantly and colored pink, baby blue, black, gray or white. They give little or no support, require constant fitting adjustments due to poor liners packing out.

Heel lifts: Supposed to help women get their bodies forward on skis, yet I've never seen a woman stand in heels and move her center of mass further forward. A heel lift makes you shift the center of mass backwards in order to compensate for your legs being tilted forward. Because they take up volume in poorly fit boots (see above), and 'feels better' in the shop this trend continues to the detriment of good balance.

Built in artificial ramps: added to the skis under the binding area, built in differentials between the heel and toe of bindings, or added into the shell of the boots. When you combine the secretly lifted skis, bindings, and boots, and then add a heel lift... well it's no surprise that beginner and intermediate women aren't progressing.

Mounting bindings forward for women: does not universally translate into better skiing and creates a longer lever in tail of the ski to tear the ACL.

Crap skis under cute/girly graphics, passed off as "womens".

The whole concept that women need super short, soft skis, boots and a seemly infinite number of levels of beginner and intermediate gear designed so that they will be outgrown after 1 season. Also the insinuation that if the bunk science 'womens solutions' don't work for you then you are somehow less feminine physically. (Too:tall, heavy, muscular, straight, lacking curves etc.)
 

vanhoskier

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
The whole concept that women need super short, soft skis, boots and a seemly infinite number of levels of beginner and intermediate gear designed so that they will be outgrown after 1 season. Also the insinuation that if the bunk science 'womens solutions' don't work for you then you are somehow less feminine physically. (Too:tall, heavy, muscular, straight, lacking curves etc.)

Shop people who think all women need this stuff and steer us away from unisex skis. My Line Celebrities are the first women's ski that doesn't feel like a women's ski.

Other things I hate: K2 women's skis with too much pink on the topsheets. (I own a pair of K2 Just Cause skis....white with pink ribbons for breast cancer research...a lot of women loved them; I hate them).

Carving skis that lock you into a turn but won't allow you to skid turns or vary turn radii.

Those tight women's fitted ski pants.

Rear-entry boots. What was with those?

Salomon Pilot skis and bindings. Yuck.
 

SkiNurse

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I had a pair of Nordica boots that others told me were fabulous. I spent two seasons in tears by the middle of the day because of the shinbang that I would get. This is what lead me to start getting custom footbeds to now custom boots.

Not a ski item, but Dansko shoes. They HATE my feet.
 

dloveski

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
My list....

Over-priced jogging duds, especially 'Sexy' jogging shorts----Why are the women's running shorts either skin-tight and/or short, yet men's running shorts are long?

Boot gloves----great concept, not worth the hassle except for the coldest or deepest snow days, and even then......

Most of my camelbacks----gave up the hassle, hated toting them around except for the longest of hikes. I'm into KISS concept and now use a plastic flask in the pocket for skiing and plant my water for hot-day runs.

Leki hiking poles----like them, but.........can't decide, jury out.

Gels, sport drinks, goo----expensive alternatives to water.
 

altagirl

Moderator
Staff member
Totally agree with bklyn on:

Hottronics - Had problems with the cords rubbing against my achilles, battery charge problems, and then apparently hit one of the batteries against something and lost it in the parking lot one day... and never bothered to replace it because they're more hassle than they were worth to me. The thin disposable toe heaters are WAY better for me.

Heel lifts: worst thing I've tried. They actually make me bend forward at the hips (moving my butt farther back) to compensate for my heels being up higher. Apparently they help some people, but I just don't get it. It seems more like a cosmetic way to make boots feel like they fit better without actually making them fit better.

Forward binding mounting - ditto. It makes me ski worse and the extra tail on the skis make me feel like my ACLs are at risk. No thanks.

Rossignol skis: Tried the womens line and thought they were incredibly mushy. I can pass that off that I might be just too big for them, but I don't like most of their mens skis either. XXX's, B3's, etc. - I have to ski them extra long to make them not feel like noodles... and what the heck is the point of having extra long skis just so they can feel like the shorter skis that I like? That's just more weight, more ski to catch on technical terrain... Maybe good for the male ego (letting you ski longer skis), but other than that, I have no idea.
 

SnowHot

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Angel Diva
I heard great things about the Rossi B2's and I was completely uninspired by them.

Ditto Bklyn (among others) on the Women's line.
No skier, man or woman, should be pigeon holed.
 

sbskier

Certified Ski Diva
I can't say that I hated the K2 Burnin' Luvs and the Rossi B2's, but I honestly do not understand the hype about these skis. The skis that I did not like were the Rossi B3's.
 

sibhusky

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
All women's skis except the Auras. Of course, I haven't tried them ALL, but have tried quite a few.

Hotronics, but that's because I've not had issues with my BootGloves which I couldn't overcome. I just make sure my buckles are done being adjusted before I go out, that I put them on indoors and that the toe area is folded under a bit to avoid the binding. Can't imagine spending $140 or whatever when $25 will do the trick.

Booster straps. Don't get why putting on elastic will hold the top of the boot more firmly against your leg than non-stretchy strap that comes with the boot. I move back and forth and hold the tongue against my shin to make sure it's snug. I'd have to drill my boot's rivets out and re-engineer the boot's overlaps to use booster straps. Why do all that to the boot just to try the thing out??? I bought one, looked at the installation nightmare and passed them to my daughter....who still hasn't installed them on her boots.
 

persee

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
So far I havent' had (or tried) any gear that I've hated - hyped or otherwise.

My gear includes the following:
Northface Varius Guide jacket - love it
Columbia ski pants - adequate
Northface Freedom pant, uninsulated - not yet tried
Giro 9 helmet - love it
Smith Anthem goggles (3 pairs in varius lens colors - love them
Level gloves - great except when really cold
Black Diamond Patrol Mitt - not yet tried
Nordica W8W boots - retired due to being too big
K2 T9 True Luv skis - retired due to my advancing ability, but loved them for making the transition from just past newbie to advanced skier
Volkl Attiva AC3 skis - lovelovelove these skis
Solomon Idol 8 boots - love these boots they fit great, no cold toes either.
Volkl Aura skis - not yet tried
Smart wool lightpad ski socks - love these!
K2 T9 Lotta Luv skis - demoed these and loved them, never got a chance to buy
 

w.ski

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
you hated them? eek, why?

A few years ago I demoed the Volkl 5 star and loved it, then demoed the Burnin' luv, expecting them to be fabulous but couldn't wait to take them off. Compared to the 5 stars they felt like lifeless planks.... what can I say :noidea: Needless to say, I ended up buying the 5 stars (the unisex version).
 

volklgirl

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Booster straps. Don't get why putting on elastic will hold the top of the boot more firmly against your leg than non-stretchy strap that comes with the boot. I move back and forth and hold the tongue against my shin to make sure it's snug. I'd have to drill my boot's rivets out and re-engineer the boot's overlaps to use booster straps. Why do all that to the boot just to try the thing out??? I bought one, looked at the installation nightmare and passed them to my daughter....who still hasn't installed them on her boots.

Dude,
Don't say you hate them without even putting them on. I thought they were all hype and said "bleh" about the hassle to mount them too. After they sat around for a couple of months, I paid our local shop 5 bucks and they had them mounted in about 15 minutes. Absolutely couldn't be happier with them! There's no overlap engineering involved at all. Just route them like a normal power strap if the inside routing doesn't work.....you WILL notice the difference!
 

Kiragirl

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
re: booster straps/power straps

this may sound dumb, but I don't really get the purpose of the straps. I've had straps on an old pair of Nordica racing boots, which I think at the time was a "fad" market for selling boots to non-racers. the boots were ok at the time but now would be way too high and stiff. My new Soloman Rush 8's have straps too, velcro-style. I love the boots but could do without the straps. I connect them, but not tightly....... I rather have a velcro strap around the low part of my ankle that I could tighten up or loosen as I wanted. Why tighten up the area around your mid-leg, which may inhibit forward flex?

Maybe I'm sounding dumb about this, but I rather have the flex/movement than a tightness around my leg.

boot manufacturers, do you visit this site??? you should, for the many, many good comments from all the Divas!!
 

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