MissySki
Angel Diva
I figured I'd start a new thread for this topic in case anyone is interested in the new Fischer Vacuum boots because though I've posted it elsewhere, it's kind of buried in an old thread about my painful boots from last year! Please see below for my the fit process I went through for the boots and how they feel so far. I'm looking forward to posting a more thorough review when I actually get to ski them, though that won't be for a little while now since I'm in the Northeast.
October 13, 2011:
Sooooo, I officially got the Fischer Trinity Vacuum 110 boot!! The flex was good for me, and I found out that they are much less stiff than my Langes from last year.
When I first put on the boot to try just for shell fit and then in the liner, the first thing I noticed was how comfortable they were and how light they were. I want to say the figure is that they are actually 25% lighter than a normal boot because of the new material. My bootfitter thought this would be the best option for me based on my troublesome feet.
The fitting process:
First thing he did was rearrange the buckles, not sure what that entailed as he went in back to use some tools I assume. Then I put the boots back on and stood up on the Fischer system in these grooves. Then we set the forward lean and foot spacing.
Next I got off and took off the boots. The shells alone went into the oven and baked for ~12 mins. While they were cooking, I had padding placed on each side of the bony prominences on my ankles and the 6th toe and the opposite bone near the big toe. There were also toe caps to put on. Then a nylon stocking was put on to keep everything in its place.
The timer then dings for the boot shells which now look like putty (well certain parts of it), it's amazing how maleable they become!! He then inserted the liners with my footbeds in them and I slipped my feet in, being careful not to flex because of how maleable the plastic was. Let's just say this was extremely uncomfortable with all the padding!!!!! That's actually an understatement, I mean the boots fit pretty snuggly before all the padding, so you can only imagine how tight/bordering on painful with hard pads digging in places that it was!
Next comes cold packs wrapped around each boot and then the pressure bag is zipped on. Then with all this you step back onto the system into the metal slots and lean into the previously set forward lean notches. The zippered bags around each boot are then connected to the vacuum source. You can then set the pressure for 100psi (sport fit) 200psi (performance fit) or 300 psi (race fit).. He did 260 psi for me based on the very narrow heels and achilles tendons I have. Then you just stand for ~10 mins. while the vacuum/cooling process does its thing. It felt very cool to sense the whole boot actually contouring to your calf and foot! It also felt uncomfortable and bordered on painful because hey that is ALOT of pressure, but hey if it works I'm okay with some initial pain!!! Really the only spots that hurt were due to the hard padding being crushed against your boney areas.
Once the times goes off, everything relaxes and I stepped down and was helped out of the boots, again being careful not to flex them because the plastic needs to cure for 12 hours after the whole process. He was able to also show me the inside of one shell where you could see the outline of my achilles and you could also see the curves of my padded ankles on from the outside of the shell.. pretty amazing!!
Since I need to have my hotronics put in, they kept my boots so they could cure before they start messing around with them and I pick them up this coming weekend. I'll then get to try them on for the first time and flex them without all of the padding, so I cannot wait to feel the fit!! I hope it's great! There is still a chance to need some work done once I ski them and all, but this should get me alot closer to where I need to be right from the get go. Also, you can remold the boot up to 5 times, so if there is any weight gain, pregnancy, you just want a tighter or looser fit, you sell the boot to someone else, etc. you can remold it again down the road.
All in all a VERY VERY cool experience! If anyone is thinking about checking them out, I'd urge you to do so. If anything wasn't clear or you have any questions about the process I'd be glad to tell you what I can!
Update: October 22, 2011
I picked up my new boots today!! I tried them on when I got to the boot shop and all I can say is WOW! I literally said to my bootfitter "Umm I don't know how to say this, but I almost feel like they are too comfortable???" Never thought I'd say that about a ski boot! (Mind you he told me that he had someone else say the exact same thing recently after getting the boot vacuum fit, so I'm not crazy!) Basically he said that since it is contoured to every spot on my foot/leg etc. that I have essentially no hot spots or pressure points of any sort, it just all contours with my anatomy. Of course he also said, now we have to see how they feel when I ski so we can assess from there since there are so few people who have skied them yet on the consumer level, gosh I cannot wait to try them out on the snow!!
I will also say for those of you who have also complained of super skinny heels, low insteps and a wide forefoot like I have.. I've never felt anything like this where every piece of my foot has even contact with the liner and that's without cranking down my buckles at all.
So far I am extremely pleased and optimistic for the upcoming ski season with these boots. Phil at Ski Stop in Westwood, MA has been so great to work with on these boots and is very knowledgeable, if anyone in the area is interested in them I'd definitely recommend checking them out! I'll let you know how they feel when I get to ski them!
Oh and another really cool thing is you can totally see the shape of my ankle bones in the plastic of the boot and how it comes in a ton around certain parts of my foot and leg yet stays out for my forefoot etc. Sorry if I am babbling at this point, but it is just sooooo cool to me, what exciting new technology!
October 13, 2011:
Sooooo, I officially got the Fischer Trinity Vacuum 110 boot!! The flex was good for me, and I found out that they are much less stiff than my Langes from last year.
When I first put on the boot to try just for shell fit and then in the liner, the first thing I noticed was how comfortable they were and how light they were. I want to say the figure is that they are actually 25% lighter than a normal boot because of the new material. My bootfitter thought this would be the best option for me based on my troublesome feet.
The fitting process:
First thing he did was rearrange the buckles, not sure what that entailed as he went in back to use some tools I assume. Then I put the boots back on and stood up on the Fischer system in these grooves. Then we set the forward lean and foot spacing.
Next I got off and took off the boots. The shells alone went into the oven and baked for ~12 mins. While they were cooking, I had padding placed on each side of the bony prominences on my ankles and the 6th toe and the opposite bone near the big toe. There were also toe caps to put on. Then a nylon stocking was put on to keep everything in its place.
The timer then dings for the boot shells which now look like putty (well certain parts of it), it's amazing how maleable they become!! He then inserted the liners with my footbeds in them and I slipped my feet in, being careful not to flex because of how maleable the plastic was. Let's just say this was extremely uncomfortable with all the padding!!!!! That's actually an understatement, I mean the boots fit pretty snuggly before all the padding, so you can only imagine how tight/bordering on painful with hard pads digging in places that it was!
Next comes cold packs wrapped around each boot and then the pressure bag is zipped on. Then with all this you step back onto the system into the metal slots and lean into the previously set forward lean notches. The zippered bags around each boot are then connected to the vacuum source. You can then set the pressure for 100psi (sport fit) 200psi (performance fit) or 300 psi (race fit).. He did 260 psi for me based on the very narrow heels and achilles tendons I have. Then you just stand for ~10 mins. while the vacuum/cooling process does its thing. It felt very cool to sense the whole boot actually contouring to your calf and foot! It also felt uncomfortable and bordered on painful because hey that is ALOT of pressure, but hey if it works I'm okay with some initial pain!!! Really the only spots that hurt were due to the hard padding being crushed against your boney areas.
Once the times goes off, everything relaxes and I stepped down and was helped out of the boots, again being careful not to flex them because the plastic needs to cure for 12 hours after the whole process. He was able to also show me the inside of one shell where you could see the outline of my achilles and you could also see the curves of my padded ankles on from the outside of the shell.. pretty amazing!!
Since I need to have my hotronics put in, they kept my boots so they could cure before they start messing around with them and I pick them up this coming weekend. I'll then get to try them on for the first time and flex them without all of the padding, so I cannot wait to feel the fit!! I hope it's great! There is still a chance to need some work done once I ski them and all, but this should get me alot closer to where I need to be right from the get go. Also, you can remold the boot up to 5 times, so if there is any weight gain, pregnancy, you just want a tighter or looser fit, you sell the boot to someone else, etc. you can remold it again down the road.
All in all a VERY VERY cool experience! If anyone is thinking about checking them out, I'd urge you to do so. If anything wasn't clear or you have any questions about the process I'd be glad to tell you what I can!
Update: October 22, 2011
I picked up my new boots today!! I tried them on when I got to the boot shop and all I can say is WOW! I literally said to my bootfitter "Umm I don't know how to say this, but I almost feel like they are too comfortable???" Never thought I'd say that about a ski boot! (Mind you he told me that he had someone else say the exact same thing recently after getting the boot vacuum fit, so I'm not crazy!) Basically he said that since it is contoured to every spot on my foot/leg etc. that I have essentially no hot spots or pressure points of any sort, it just all contours with my anatomy. Of course he also said, now we have to see how they feel when I ski so we can assess from there since there are so few people who have skied them yet on the consumer level, gosh I cannot wait to try them out on the snow!!
I will also say for those of you who have also complained of super skinny heels, low insteps and a wide forefoot like I have.. I've never felt anything like this where every piece of my foot has even contact with the liner and that's without cranking down my buckles at all.
So far I am extremely pleased and optimistic for the upcoming ski season with these boots. Phil at Ski Stop in Westwood, MA has been so great to work with on these boots and is very knowledgeable, if anyone in the area is interested in them I'd definitely recommend checking them out! I'll let you know how they feel when I get to ski them!
Oh and another really cool thing is you can totally see the shape of my ankle bones in the plastic of the boot and how it comes in a ton around certain parts of my foot and leg yet stays out for my forefoot etc. Sorry if I am babbling at this point, but it is just sooooo cool to me, what exciting new technology!