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First Day on Dynastar Exclusive Fluids

WildKitten

Certified Ski Diva
I admit that I've been a bit hesitant to use these carvers and now I'm sorry that it's taken me so long to ski them. After this morning with them I'd say they have the potential to become my favorite ski. I've been enjoying the comfort of the Legends, but these Fluids are so easy to turn I was absolutely amazed.

:ski2:
 

Tennessee

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Dynastar Legend 8000

Hello,

I'm a Dynastar devotee too! I have the Legend 8000 and absolutely love them for anything from crud to ice, and especially for good snow. I haven't been keeping up with their new skis since I'm not in the market this year. How do these Fluids compare to the Legends? Is this also an all mountain ski? Thanks!

Tennessee
 

WildKitten

Certified Ski Diva
There are better people here to answer more technical questions, but here's how I understand it, and my experience. The Legends have a 74 mm waist which gives them more heft underfoot than the Fluids. They have a very good edge hold. The Legends are a lighter weight ski than the Fluids, easy to handle and are more suited for varied conditions.

The Fluids have a 68 mm waist which gives more edge hold and a shorter turning radius. The Fluid would be more appropriate for hard pack conditions.

I guess the bottom line is whether or not you like to turn. If you don't like to turn you probably wouldn't enjoy the Fluids. I am a turner, and I Loved them!
 

Tennessee

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Dynastar deconstructed

Thanks WildKitten!

Don't underestimate your technical ability (see thread about women vs. men and true estimations of ability) -- that was a great and very understandable (to me) review of your new skis vs. my skis! I can tell you do your research and it was nice to see objective measurements included. I'm a number person too. I totally get where you're coming from. I like to turn too but I really enjoy cranking them over at speed and just cruising. I think I would enjoy your new skis but I can only afford one ski so I'm very happy with my Legend 8000's. I'm really excited for you -- nothing better than skiing a new ski for the first time that really gets your heart racing! Have fun and thanks for the report -- Dynastars Rock!

Tennessee
 

MaineSkiLady

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Yay! :clap: Finally, some devotees of another brand of skis!
Welcome to my club! :D
Will have to put these on my demo list for next month when I get a chance (hopefully, they will be there!).
No matter what I ski on or demo, I always come back to the E Legends, which somehow seem to cover all the bases -- at least the ones I touch. The Powders are a little "floatier" for soft days but require a bit more work on anything else. Would love to try these, for sure! Hopefully, DH can get on the 8000s, maybe even the Contact 4 x 4 (highly rated this year).

So glad you are loving them! :love:
I feel decidedly outnumbered here :( and HAVE demo'd the "V" skis.
 

Tennessee

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
The "V" skis

I too have demoed the "V" skis -- I even owned a pair at one time when I worked at the mountain that was the distributor/importer or whatever. They pushed them pretty hard. They are just not my cup of tea. Dynastars just suit my skiing style better I think. Rossignols are similar. Let's hear from other Dynastar devotees~!!
 

MaineSkiLady

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Well, there's a few of us here, decidedly outnumbered. I think the brand has a much bigger following in Europe?? :noidea: - given that they're manufactured in Chamonix Valley? Got my first pair in Dec, 1977 (:eek:) just before a trip to CO, and I recall that they were somewhat wider than the typical straight ski, did well in powder (better than the "pilot" did, ha). Have had forays into other brands and even once named another brand/ski as all-time favorite. Since 02, back to Dynastar and haven't wavered since (although I have demo'd some lovely alternatives). E Legends now rapidly eclipsing my previous all-time favorite ski (Rossi Strato circa 1979) just in terms of sheer versatility. May not work for everyone, but good grief, I have yet to find a type of snow condition that this ski will not gladly tackle. (with the exception of deeper snow, which I haven't seen with these yet, have the E Legend Powders for that). Remarkable. Can't wait to demo some other models. Yay Dynastar! :D True winners. Such a devotee that I am considering getting some new/old stock E Legends, JUST in case they change it up in the future.
 

SkiMo

Certified Ski Diva
I have Roxy Bliss skis. They are made by Dynastar and I love them. I don't really push it in skis though, so I don't think they would be good for the divas who ski the hard stuff.
For the casual, just out for fun skier though, they are a blast.
Some day I aspire to do the hard stuff,. I wonder if I will need new skis?
 

veggielasagna

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
It's a shame that the demos around here are always the usual suspects. You know, Volkl, K2, Nordica etc. I would love to try some Dynastars, it seems like everyone who skis them loves them!

Glad you're having fun with yours!

-veggielasagna
 

WildKitten

Certified Ski Diva
veggielasagna, I actually bought the Legends and the Fluids without demoing either pair. My hubby saw that Expertskier.com gave them both very high ratings. After reading about them and asking on this forum (I'll be forever indebted to MSL) I decided to go for it.

The Legends were a year old model we bought online, and the Fluids were a demo pair we bought from a Dynastar rep through our local ski shop.

We got both for under $500 (including bindings). We figured if I hated them we could always sell them. Luckily they fit me just right!!

:ski2::ski2:
 

MaineSkiLady

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
Ah shucks, WK, I'm speechless :redface::becky: (well, almost). Listen, I just did a 12-14" powder day (:snow::yahoo:) at Sugarloaf, and the E Legends (NOT the EL Powders, which I also own) just SAILED and floated - happy, happy skis! :smile: I was having a "low energy" day and didn't think we'd wind up with THAT MUCH SNOW here - and it being a holiday weekend, a long-turning radius seemed too much today. (turns out that either would have been great) OMG, those skis just rocked the pow today (this much snow in one storm being something of a rarity in this region).

I checked out the Fluids at my local ski shop the other day - they have them in stock, and I'm going to gently nudge/request that the model be present at local demo days next month :wink: --- HAVE to try these out!! In the market for a new front side carver, and I think we have the same taste! (and you got a totally ridiculous deal on those 2 pairs, BTW, as if you didn't already KNOW!)
 

MaineSkiLady

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
It's a shame that the demos around here are always the usual suspects. You know, Volkl, K2, Nordica etc. I would love to try some Dynastars, it seems like everyone who skis them loves them!
I hear ya about the lack of demo opportunities. Neither of the resorts I frequent offers them on demo days here, either. :( I feel extremely lucky that the local/regional ski shop sponsors demo days at several local, smaller places and has a good line-up. This is how I finally got on the E Legends last season. Hope to get DH on the Contact 4 x 4 (very highly rated this year) and the 8000. And me on the Fluids!
 

WildKitten

Certified Ski Diva
the E Legends (NOT the EL Powders, which I also own) just SAILED and floated - happy, happy skis!

MSL, I can't tell you how VERY happy I am to hear this! :becky:

We're heading to Telluride then to Crested Butte next month. It's great to know that I can rely on the Legends in powder. Now, if I could just learn how to enjoy the stuff!:snow:

Hmmm, maybe with the right ski's I finally will!
 

MaineSkiLady

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
This snow was only ("only" :D) a foot. Should you get into some major dumpage over that amount, I would suggest a wide-body demo (obviously the EL Powder, if available :wink:)---but many others available as well. I think there are probably better choices than the EL in the true deep, but to a foot-plus the Legends are good to go.

ETA: I am not a very accomplished powder skier, given the fact that it's such a rarity here, especially in these amounts. Much input and coaching from DH The Retired Instructor (all useful), and the skis pretty much did the rest. Really.
 

retromaven

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
At this point I can get the best deal on Dynastar Exclusive 11's...are they what is now the Fluids? They get an amazing review, and although they are past year ski, apparently they are skied (even over the Legends) by many top skiers. I originally wanted something that handled occasional powder, but these are great short turn radius skis and apparently handle amazingly on groomers (which I mostly ski - 99.9% of the time) but apparently the ski can handle powder too) where as my Fischer's are not bad in short radius, but reviewed as, and also in my experience take a heck of a lot more input than their sweet long and medium radius turns.

I don't want to go with the Exclusive Carve as it's supposed to be potentially too jittery for cruising even if it turns even easier than the 11, and the Fluids are more expensive and the 11s get a slightly better (not knocking, just stating why I'd consider them first) over the newer models (or so it seems) as all the skis I have been considering are still too pricey and these seem to be a ski I'd enjoy as well.

I ski my Fischer's at 158 and they are fine, but I think for tight turning (I have my Fischer's for bombing :smile:) I'd want a shorter ski, I'll keep the 158s for the "stability" at higher speed, so I was considering 153 in these? I have to pull the trigger on these (if I do) within a day, so any input would be helpful ASAP.

Thanks in advance...

PS. Here are the ski's stats, which by far bests the newer models:


Year 2006/2007
Level Level III (Expert)
Gender Female
Tip/Waist/Tail 112-70-98
MSRP $1025
(without bindings)
Testers' Average Score 3.7
Stability 3.9
Long Turns 4.1
Medium Turns 4
Short Turns 3.9
Quickness 3.85
Forgiveness 3.9
Hard Snow Grip 3.6
Crud 3.95
Powder 3.95
Corduroy 3.8
Moguls 3.5
Maneuverability 3.9

Predictably, the women’s version of the Contact 11 excels by virtue of its uncanny versatility. It’s up for anything, but it’s especially fun in short and medium arcs on the groomed. Dynastar does everything it can think of to adapt it to the needs of women: forward-waisted sidecut, judicious heel-lift, lightweight two-piece plate fixed at the toe. The NX binding is Look’s lightweight step-in, but the 11 is also available with the heavier, more precise PX heel for $25 more. Either will work well, but consider the PX if you like power. Whatever the setup, the 11 is a subtle, smooth performer that inspires confidence. "Supple and adaptable in changing conditions, tenacious on the steeps," said Thys. "A calm confidence-builder." Con Only the most aggressive women may want more muscle.
 

tamlyn

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I skied Dynastar Descente's and loved them. I just got a pair of Dynastar Speed course Pro Team GS/Super G Skis and have only skied them once and am thrilled. They seem to have faster bottoms than any other skis I have owned except my old Dynamics, which I guess are no longer in business. Good luck with yours, if your experience is anything like mine your gonna love them.
Tami
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