Pro is a wider last than the Max.
Yes, the max is low volume 98 mm last. Tho these are both smax low volume, the volume is definitely much snugger 3 dimensionally (heel, calf, forefoot, toe box) on the 120. Another interesting feature of both boots that I do like and haven’t seen before is you could probably put a lace in the liner if you wanted a really snug liner fit along the shin.
In theory, but given I have so many issues trying to flex low flex boots, I'm not sure most higher end boots could ever be softened to a degree that would work for me. But I'm sure this is true for most people.At least you can soften to a certain extent though? I don't know if maybe that's the thought process in manufacturing, that high performance boots are often going to be further customized in some capacity.. and having a higher flex can accommodate a larger audience since it can be lessened with a bootfitter versus lower flex being able to be stiffened more.
Other than removing the screws, how would you soften them?At least you can soften to a certain extent though? I don't know if maybe that's the thought process in manufacturing, that high performance boots are often going to be further customized in some capacity.. and having a higher flex can accommodate a larger audience since it can be lessened with a bootfitter versus lower flex being able to be stiffened more.
Other than removing the screws, how would you soften them?
The knowledgeable bootfitter cuts into the plastic where it bends forward. This cannot be undone. This guy knows his stuff. Like so:Other than removing the screws, how would you soften them?
I know you are a small person, and that may be the determining factor.In theory, but given I have so many issues trying to flex low flex boots, I'm not sure most higher end boots could ever be softened to a degree that would work for me. But I'm sure this is true for most people.
The knowledgeable bootfitter cuts into the plastic where it bends forward. This cannot be undone. This guy knows his stuff. Like so:
And that's the problem....I DID go to a professional bootfitter. Now I don't trust any of them. Is it uncommon to just buy a different pair until I al least learn how to ski better? I hate to drop that kind of cash but I am willing to. I tried on the Atomic hawks ultra 110s ...mens again. They were a lot less stiff, but I know inventory is pretty low here in CT. I may just go North in a few weeks.The knowledgeable bootfitter cuts into the plastic where it bends forward. This cannot be undone. This guy knows his stuff. Like so:
And that's the problem....I DID go to a professional bootfitter. Now I don't trust any of them. Is it uncommon to just buy a different pair until I al least learn how to ski better? I hate to drop that kind of cash but I am willing to. I tried on the Atomic hawks ultra 110s ...mens again. They were a lot less stiff, but I know inventory is pretty low here in CT. I may just go North in a few weeks.
I did go back, but then didn't ski much and not at all last year. I do think a lot is probably lack of technique etc. I will give them a call and see what happens. ThanksThe question is, did you go back to that bootfitter with your current issue? They didn’t necessarily do anything wrong by putting you in a boot that turned out to be too stiff for you on snow. This can happen based on miscommunications of your skill level or based on how you looked flexing them in the store etc. There should be the expectation on your and your bootfitters end that you will go back for tweaks as needed once you ski them a bit. If you went back and described tour issue and he is unwilling to work on the boot to make it right, that’s another story.
I did go back, but then didn't ski much and not at all last year. I do think a lot is probably lack of technique etc. I will give them a call and see what happens. Thanks
Hmmm great point. Thanks $$Since it’s been awhile, maybe it is better to just start over and fresh for the season with something you feel more confident in. Are there other bootfitters around where you live or ski that you want to try? If so, make sure you bring your old boot too so they can assess it and you can specifically let them know what the issues you’ve experienced with them are. If you want to try and work with the old bootfitter further on this boot, I’d express your desire to more aggressively soften the flex at this point. It doesn’t seem like you need to be concerned with going too far with a permanent alteration if you are willing to start over completely anyway.
Sorry, I 100% know how frustrating this stuff can be. And no one wants to waste the season on difficult boots, it can be so very maddening. :(