Yep! The Mindbenders are mounted at -10cm vs -7 on the Sheevas. It’ll give you more stability at speed vs the forward mounts (which help make it super easy to turn and makes it more surfy and smeary). The Mindbenders also have less rocker, longer turn radius, and stiffer flex that’ll add to the perceived length.
That’s a sweet quiver!
The Santa Ana 88 lost a sheet of metal. As @contesstant said, when we skied them back to back, we couldn't really tell that it lost a sheet of metal.@SnowHot did the 88 change or stay the same?
So in the 93's, the change is from a 161 to say a 158? 3 cm shorter make that much of a difference ? Or would it feel the same?The Santa Ana 88 lost a sheet of metal. As @contesstant said, when we skied them back to back, we couldn't really tell that it lost a sheet of metal.
The lengths in the 93 definitely made a difference.
The mindbenders are a little more serious. The Santa Anas are a little more playful.So in the 93's, the change is from a 161 to say a 158? 3 cm shorter make that much of a difference ? Or would it feel the same?
Re: the Mindbenders - I demoed them in Taos in a 156 and found them nice on groomers but too much work in the bumps...
My Quattros are 168, right in the middle but perhaps slightly shorter than what I need for my height and weight. I opted for non-Ti so not too stiff and heavy on my legs. I guess I must be used to my Kores because the Quattro's are actually lighter when I compared them today. Snow contact length when laying flat is about 3cm longer in the Quattro's and it's all in the tail where the rocker is less pronounced. So I think it's a combo of lighter weight and longer tail contact that leaves me feeling uneasy as I'm going into the turn. I think I just need to spend a day playing with them before I make the decision whether or not to sell them this fall. I do like the narrower waist for quick edge changes and easier carving.I have the Blizzard Viva 810ti which is the 2015 version of your Quattro 8.0 Ca. Mine have titanal and yours have carbon; yours are less stiff than mine, but should still be a pretty stable ski and not feel squirrelly. Do you think the length is off for you? Mine are 167 and ski like they are supposed to, I just prefer a livelier ski. I am on a quest for one that is super stable, holds a great edge on ice, and is a bit lively. Wish me luck!
Yes. To me, the 165 skied the same as the 169 used to.I don't want to put words in your post, but....
When we talked, I think we both thought the difference in sheets of metal (2021 having one sheet) didn't make as much of a difference as the change in wheelbase and options in lengths.
That's how I felt, anyway. Did I understand you correctly?
The Nela by Stockli is the new women's line. A tad bit less serious than the Stormrider Motion. I want a a pair!
An instagram for an idle pair of skis! I like that. My new Rossis could move around the house, lean against my desk chair with the background of bookshelves I use for meetings, hang out on the deck as the flowers bud in the backyard, rock on the front porch swing, be tucked under the bed covers...