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Black Crows Daemon Birdie Review

arbusch

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
#1
My stats - 5'5'', 115 lbs, aggressive, hard charging skiers who loves skiing trees, ungroomed runs, powder, chutes and who gets bored on groomed runs. Mainly ski in the backcountry when I can. Lives in Northeast Oregon with only small local hills and lots of backcountry terrain.

So I bought the Black Crows Daemon Birdie (2019) in 165 in length on sale at STP on a whim and sounded like a ski I might love. I threw on some dynafit bindings and decided I would try them as backcountry set up. With bindings, each ski only weighs about 4.1 lbs so not super light but not super heavy.

There are not a ton of reviews on this ski. I can't for the life of me figure out why. I have skied these skis 5 different times so far and love it. They tour great too. I have skied them on breakable crust, powder days with about 5 inches of new snow, at our local small hill with a base of ice with a dusting of 4 inches of new snow. These skis love to fly, easy to make tight turns in the trees, easy to make big GS turns on open runs, playful, planes on soft snow, and holds an edge really well. They are the most fun on soft snow days or bit a new snow on hard pack underneath. Not bad on the groomers - they don't chatter too much.

The biggest complaint was from my DH about how I beat him down our favorite run (a chopped/bumped up run) and he could barely catch me on the skis. :smile:

These are definitely stiffer ski for me which I am loving (but not too stiff). The reverse camber and the shape is unique but makes for a fun ski that pivots quickly.

My favorite day was when the 40++ crowd (me at the youngest of 42 everyone else in their 50-60s) was chasing each other all over the mountain on our local hill as fast as we could - like a bunch of teenagers. I could ski these hard and fast through the trees, chutes, and chopped up runs and keep up with all the boys. I was having so much fun that I might have fist pumped a couple of times coming down a run that day.

Highly recommend these skis if you like to ski fast and hard, love a ski you can turn easily, and need an all-mountain ski.
 

WaterGirl

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
#2
I think the Black Crow all mountain skis are definitely under rated for their crud busting and float - super fun skis for those who regularly ski in variable conditions. I also appreciate the longer turn radius yet capability to be driven in short turns down the fall line..... congrats @arbusch on your new skis :smile:
 

arbusch

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
#3
Thanks and I would agree- super fun in variable conditions.

I will say that at times I wish I could of test driven the different lengths - 170s vs 165s. Yet living in the middle of nowhere, there is no way to demo anything.

I find the 165s great in the tight trees and appreciate how easier it is to take off my skins in the shorter length. Yet in the more open bowls with more new snow, I wonder if I would find the 170 length just a tad bit more enjoyable and able to rally harder through the softer snow. I am definitely between sizes with these skis. Yet in the end, I am having fun with these skis and just need to stop overthinking it.

Just FYI, these skis are still on sale at STP!!
 

slyfox4

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
#4
I think the Black Crow all mountain skis are definitely under rated for their crud busting and float - super fun skis for those who regularly ski in variable conditions
YES! I have skied my Atris on groomers (little chattery, can't go as fast but sometimes that's okay), blower powder, wet new snow, and spring conditions. They float but also just get through the chop. Love my Crows SO much!
 

angelaskis

Certified Ski Diva
#5
YES! I have skied my Atris on groomers (little chattery, can't go as fast but sometimes that's okay), blower powder, wet new snow, and spring conditions. They float but also just get through the chop. Love my Crows SO much!
Atris gang!!! I pulled the trigger on these this year too after demoing them in Utah and similarly was pleasantly surprised how good they were on groomers and how stable they were through chop. They cut through crud so calmly...

Make me want to try the Daemons.
 

slyfox4

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
#6
Atris gang!!! I pulled the trigger on these this year too after demoing them in Utah and similarly was pleasantly surprised how good they were on groomers and how stable they were through chop. They cut through crud so calmly...

Make me want to try the Daemons.
Have you tried the Captis? That's a stiffer ski than the Atris. I haven't tried the Camox yet (mostly because my local shop only has the larger size and I'm tiny). I always thought the Camox would be my next ski...but I am also really interested in trying the Moment Sierras!

But really through...I wish I bought like 8 pairs of my 2018 Atris. I just LOVE them. I also get tons of compliments everytime I ski with them ; )
 

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