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Never ending boot saga continues

SquidWeaselYay

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
in the meantime, you can go to a cloth shop and buy a big fat roll of sticky-back Velcro. Cut strips any size and shape you want from the soft half of the Velcro, and stick onto the outside of your liners where you need filler. I've done this to the left and right edges of the ball-of-foot area of mine, and have even put second and third layers on top of each other. The sticky stuff is incredibly persistent in staying stuck. If your Velcro moves, cover it with duct tape. Your liners don't need to look good, they just need to be functional.
That is really good advice, thank you! The duct tape foam already got torn up a bit from shoving it back into the shell.

Serious creativity and resourcefulness points to you.
 

contesstant

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
My feet are 83mm wide, lucky me. I went the junior race boot route for a season and a half and had quads of steel as a result. WAY too much delta in those things.

I very rarely find a boot that fits with the stock liner. Absolutely yes to Boot Doc foam injected liners. I LOVE mine. I have Tecnica Mach 1 95 LV that are quite roomy over the forefoot and instep with the stock liners (as in, there's no way I would even be able to ski them.) But with the BD liners, they are snug as can be. They are as good a shell fit as I have found. Very "L" shaped.

Anyway, finding a boot that fits with stock liners with super narrow feet is, IMO, virtually impossible.
 

SquidWeaselYay

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
My feet are 83mm wide, lucky me. I went the junior race boot route for a season and a half and had quads of steel as a result. WAY too much delta in those things.

I very rarely find a boot that fits with the stock liner. Absolutely yes to Boot Doc foam injected liners. I LOVE mine. I have Tecnica Mach 1 95 LV that are quite roomy over the forefoot and instep with the stock liners (as in, there's no way I would even be able to ski them.) But with the BD liners, they are snug as can be. They are as good a shell fit as I have found. Very "L" shaped.

Anyway, finding a boot that fits with stock liners with super narrow feet is, IMO, virtually impossible.
83mm..... Good god. That is a bean pole of a foot.

The stock liner usually works for about.... 3-5 days. Then I start the tightening. Then the numbness. Then the shims. Then the pads. Then the ankle wrap.

I wanted to love the mach 1 lv, but flexing forward was painful on my shin. And something about the forward lean made me feel weird.... I was getting quad burn just standing around in them, which I didn't get in the x max. I don't think they are that far off, so I can't explain it.
 

contesstant

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
83mm..... Good god. That is a bean pole of a foot.

The stock liner usually works for about.... 3-5 days. Then I start the tightening. Then the numbness. Then the shims. Then the pads. Then the ankle wrap.

I wanted to love the mach 1 lv, but flexing forward was painful on my shin. And something about the forward lean made me feel weird.... I was getting quad burn just standing around in them, which I didn't get in the x max. I don't think they are that far off, so I can't explain it.
The stock liner in those is definitely not comfortable. I could not ski them without the Boot Docs. And no, depending on which on you choose, they do not make the boots stiffer.
 

SquidWeaselYay

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I just tried remolding the zipfit liners (heated boot bag and hot rice bags), and when I flexed forward in them, the pain on the outside of my left calf muscle flared up again.

Maybe I just need to wait like 2 years till I can save up 4k and then plan a whole trip around boot fitting and plan to drop about 1k+ on a whole new setup, boots, liners, new footbeds, the works. But that might not work either, just like all the fitters I've seen over the last 5 years.

I don't even know anymore. Between all the injuries over the past few years benching me and boot issues plaguing me when I'm not benched.... Maybe it is time for this old gal to retire.
 

SquidWeaselYay

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
OMG, didn’t I just see that you're only 33? That's when I STARTED skiing!

Old - ha!
I feel like a little old lady the past few years... Constant broken bones, ligament injuries, headaches, random joint pain for no reason, hair thinned out, less energy, "outgrew" all my clothes... I all of the sudden aged like 10 years within the past 3. I guess it's not the age, it's the mileage haha. At this rate, I hope I make it to 50!
 

SquidWeaselYay

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I'm just at a point where I'm wondering how much more I should invest in this, monetarily and time wise. I only ski about 30-50 days per year, depending on how winter goes.

I love skiing, been doing it since I was 6/7, and I've put a lot of time and effort into building my skills to the point where I can get down just about any slope. But it seems that I'm spending more and more time and money chasing a fit I can't seem to get. I don't live somewhere where I have access to good fitters, and I'm not sure if I want to dedicate many, many weekends to driving hours and hours to get to a good fitter and try to work it out, possibly to have no success anyway.

The cost/benefit analysis is dwindling for me.
 

MaineSkiLady

Angel Diva
Heads up: Atomic is RE-introducing a new line of REAR ENTRY BOOTS for next season, in several flexes (not sure of the last width, however).
Re-inventing the wheel?
I admit: I wore a number of pairs when they were available.
At somewhat "higher" (relative?) levels, they weren't bad?
(Toward the end of that era, I had the Salomon SX-91 equipe.)

It could be the answer to some of the boot misery...or...TBD...
 

Jenny

Angel Diva
I'm hoping one day you can just 3d print custom boots from your laptop after a quick scan.
Wouldn’t that be awesome?

Even for my <20 days a year, it would be worth it.

@MaineSkiLady - She could be my daughter. I've been fooling myself for a number of years about how old my kids could be (never had 'em, so it was kind of easy to do!) but as my nieces and nephews age it becomes much harder to maintain the fiction . . .
 

contesstant

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I feel like a little old lady the past few years... Constant broken bones, ligament injuries, headaches, random joint pain for no reason, hair thinned out, less energy, "outgrew" all my clothes... I all of the sudden aged like 10 years within the past 3. I guess it's not the age, it's the mileage haha. At this rate, I hope I make it to 50!
Sounds like a visit to a hormone specialist and some bloodwork is in order. You don't need to feel this way! I'm so sorry!
 

SquidWeaselYay

Ski Diva Extraordinaire
I just emailed Wyndham Boot Lab a big long history of my issues, complete with foot measurements. I asked them if they think they have any options for me and would be willing to take a swing at working with me and my unfittable feet, or if I should concede to a race plug.

I know they will probably say they can't answer anything unless they see me in person (which I totally, completely get), but I figured maybe if somebody reads my issues before I even get there, they will at least know more right out of the gate than the slew of previous boot fitters and not just think "girl skier, tune out whatever she says, give her the comfort fit and shim it."

It was worth a shot. If I hear back and they sound like they read any of what I wrote, I might make the five hour drive for it.
 

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